GY-HD101 - The next generation in 6 months

Werner Wesp · October 24th, 2005, 08:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guy Barwood

1: Full auto button is positioned behind your head nearly at the back of the camera, making it VERY VERY difficult to switch it on while shooting on the shoulder. DV500's position is much better.

I'm just happy they placed it there, making it impossible to turn on by accident and I believe many others are with me. Moreover, I think that's the reason why they've put it there...

Guy Barwood · October 24th, 2005, 08:39 AM

Done. Do you think that HD-SDI option would go in the "Dream" section though? Could JVC actually take this camera to what it really deserves to be?

On a more serious question, other than the electronics cost, I wonder how much it would increase the cost of the camera in royalty payments to Sony for HD-SDI support (I assume Sony would score royalty payments for such a feature).

Werner: Maybe they could compromise. Why not make it an option to assign to a custom button? or locate it away from other popular controls, but don't put it in a position where you have to be a contortionist to be able to access it without taking the camera off your shoulder for those that do want to use it.

Joe Carney · October 24th, 2005, 09:41 AM

Well crud, and I was already set to buy one. I don't want to purchase and then 6 months later have an outdated model. geeez.

Jiri Bakala · October 24th, 2005, 10:18 AM

Except, of course, all this is a speculation...

Joe Carney · October 24th, 2005, 01:16 PM

I should have said, just kidding. But I don't want to feel like a DVX100 user either, hehehe

Steve Mullen · October 25th, 2005, 01:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guy Barwood

Done. Do you think that HD-SDI option would go in the "Dream" section though?

JVC showed the HD100 with a built-in HD-SDI port at NAB. So you can dream. :)

Guy Barwood · October 25th, 2005, 06:26 AM

true, but that model didn't have a tape transport did it? Like a dedicated studio model.

Wasn't the rumor that version would be out at the end of this year?

Chris Hurd · October 26th, 2005, 07:27 PM

I really feel like this thread would be better off in the Area 51 forum.

Tim Dashwood · October 26th, 2005, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Hurd

I really feel like this thread would be better off in the Area 51 forum.

Either that, or maybe an addendum to the title "SPECULATION ONLY."

Steve Mullen · October 26th, 2005, 11:51 PM

What's amzing is that you could -- at some point --say a new version is coming in 6 months. :)

What does lend some credibility to this speculation is I have the "feeling" from the JVC folks that the HD100 has the built-in ability to be enhanced as soon as a 60Hz encoder is ready. One will certainly be done by the time the 7000 appears -- after NAB 2006? Spring 2006.

Clearly PCM audio is either there or ready to be turned-on.

And, yes I do expect another generation of CCDs by spring 2006.

Also, they are not about to let either Panasonic nor Canon get into the 24p/24fps business.

So 6 months seems about right. However, we all know that NAB announcments often aren't followed by product for 6 to 9 months. So I certainly wouldn't count on one in 6-months.

And, Guy you are right -- they had mounted the HD-SDI port where the transport was. But, that looked like a protype.

With Canon offering HD-SDI I'm sure JVC can find a place to mount a BNC jack.

Barry Green · October 27th, 2005, 02:02 PM

Bob Mueller, Chief Operating Officer for JVC, has stated definitively about this rumor. He says:

"Though the ProHD product line will steadily grow, the GY-HD100U is a mature product with no successor currently envisioned. "

Chris Hurd · October 27th, 2005, 02:15 PM

Thanks, Barry... I'm either moving this thread to Area 51 or renaming the title. Appreciated,

Steve Mullen · October 27th, 2005, 03:39 PM

I just get the same message from Robert. So, hopefully this will spike two isues at once:

1) banging on JVC is not going to elimate SSE -- only using it in an appropriate manner wll.

2) simply waiting a few months will not yield something dramatically new.

We can all speculate -- in Area 51-- why this might be the case. But Moore's law says about 18 months between radical improvements in semiconductors. I'm happy to live with this -- noting that none of us knows from when the 18 months starts. :)

Which is why Area 51 seems a good location. By the way, I'm less than an hours drive from Area 51.

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Steve Mullen HDV Cinema Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 4,007	What's amzing is that you could -- at some point --say a new version is coming in 6 months. :) What does lend some credibility to this speculation is I have the "feeling" from the JVC folks that the HD100 has the built-in ability to be enhanced as soon as a 60Hz encoder is ready. One will certainly be done by the time the 7000 appears -- after NAB 2006? Spring 2006. Clearly PCM audio is either there or ready to be turned-on. And, yes I do expect another generation of CCDs by spring 2006. Also, they are not about to let either Panasonic nor Canon get into the 24p/24fps business. So 6 months seems about right. However, we all know that NAB announcments often aren't followed by product for 6 to 9 months. So I certainly wouldn't count on one in 6-months. And, Guy you are right -- they had mounted the HD-SDI port where the transport was. But, that looked like a protype. With Canon offering HD-SDI I'm sure JVC can find a place to mount a BNC jack. __________________ Switcher's Quick Guide to the Avid Media Composer >>> http://home.mindspring.com/~d-v-c

October 27th, 2005, 02:15 PM	#27
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October 27th, 2005, 03:39 PM	#28
Steve Mullen HDV Cinema Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 4,007	I just get the same message from Robert. So, hopefully this will spike two isues at once: 1) banging on JVC is not going to elimate SSE -- only using it in an appropriate manner wll. 2) simply waiting a few months will not yield something dramatically new. We can all speculate -- in Area 51-- why this might be the case. But Moore's law says about 18 months between radical improvements in semiconductors. I'm happy to live with this -- noting that none of us knows from when the 18 months starts. :) Which is why Area 51 seems a good location. By the way, I'm less than an hours drive from Area 51. __________________ Switcher's Quick Guide to the Avid Media Composer >>> http://home.mindspring.com/~d-v-c

October 24th, 2005, 08:39 AM	#17
Guy Barwood Major Player Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 423	Done. Do you think that HD-SDI option would go in the "Dream" section though? Could JVC actually take this camera to what it really deserves to be? On a more serious question, other than the electronics cost, I wonder how much it would increase the cost of the camera in royalty payments to Sony for HD-SDI support (I assume Sony would score royalty payments for such a feature). Werner: Maybe they could compromise. Why not make it an option to assign to a custom button? or locate it away from other popular controls, but don't put it in a position where you have to be a contortionist to be able to access it without taking the camera off your shoulder for those that do want to use it.

October 24th, 2005, 09:41 AM	#18
Joe Carney Inner Circle Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Centreville Va Posts: 1,828	Well crud, and I was already set to buy one. I don't want to purchase and then 6 months later have an outdated model. geeez.

October 24th, 2005, 01:16 PM	#20
Joe Carney Inner Circle Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Centreville Va Posts: 1,828	I should have said, just kidding. But I don't want to feel like a DVX100 user either, hehehe

October 25th, 2005, 06:26 AM	#22
Guy Barwood Major Player Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 423	true, but that model didn't have a tape transport did it? Like a dedicated studio model. Wasn't the rumor that version would be out at the end of this year?

October 27th, 2005, 02:02 PM	#26
Barry Green Barry Wan Kenobi Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: North Carolina Posts: 3,863	Bob Mueller, Chief Operating Officer for JVC, has stated definitively about this rumor. He says: "Though the ProHD product line will steadily grow, the GY-HD100U is a mature product with no successor currently envisioned. "