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October 17th, 2005, 02:45 AM | #1 |
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Cineform and Wafien for HD100 users
" CineForm and Wafian are pleased to introduce an excitng new Direct-to-Disk HD-SDI Recorder (code named "SilverOak"). Connected to the component output of the JVC GY-HD100U , SilverOak will record over 5 hours of 1280x720p60 video into the award winning CineForm Intermediate Format. SilverOak delivers superior 10-bit, 4:2:2 Visually Lossless image quality with unsurpassed ease-of-use into CineForm Prospect HD for a real-time post production experience." http://www.dvcamps.com/index.php
Well, now give us price less than $5K :) But in reality i thinking about $15K:( |
October 17th, 2005, 07:39 AM | #2 |
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To me, this sounds amazing!
Are there any more information about this? Am I missing something (as I'm not a tech freak) but wont this kill most of the competitors? Kind regards Andreas |
October 17th, 2005, 07:56 AM | #3 |
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Just one more reason why the JVC is the real deal. Tethered or untethered you have options which never existed at the 5K price point before. It's no wonder they are selling them by the pallet.
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October 17th, 2005, 04:56 PM | #4 |
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but you only would get the 4:2:2 natively if you were recording live, wouldn't you?
Coming off tape you've already compressed and sampled at 4:2:0. |
October 17th, 2005, 05:00 PM | #5 |
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You are correct amigo, the tape will record using the ProHD codec which is 420. Component connection would be required to not get processed by the codec.
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October 17th, 2005, 09:58 PM | #6 |
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Cineform crew are the kings of HD codec. "SilverOak" will take the JVC to the same league as the Varicam. I guess one also need the "prospect HD" package to be able to work with the 10bit 4:2:2 footage!
Unfortunatly I cannot even afford the complete Aspect HD package now when my trial ends in just a few days...but "SilverOak" is something to keep an eye on for the future. Good news indeed! Keep up the great job Cineform! |
October 17th, 2005, 11:07 PM | #7 |
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Just for HD100?
If its a Direct to disk HD-SDI/component recorder that means it could work on any cam with a HD-SDI like the new Canon or component outputs like the Sonys right?
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October 18th, 2005, 01:10 AM | #8 | |
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Unfortunately, while this sounds like a great idea, unless they can develop secondary codec options like DVCProHD or Avid's DNXHD, the CIF format is .avi and only natively read by Premiere Pro and Vegas. Without a Quicktime wrapper they are limiting their market significantly. I'd probably still be tempted to get one and transcode though. |
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October 18th, 2005, 09:58 PM | #12 |
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Sounds like a sweet concept Dave. How big is this device? Obviously, with all that storage it will probably be bigger than a firestore, but if youre still in the design stages, I think portability is going to be a key selling factor for something like this. It would be nice to not need the bulky setup currently necessary to capture from the component out. Will it be able to capture 720 60p from the JVC?
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October 19th, 2005, 01:52 AM | #13 | |
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It's a shame that you consider DnxHD a competing product though - it only exists on the Avid platform, I don't think it's marketed separately to their NLE's and you guys don't currently make an Avid version of CIF :) which would be a "real good thing". I have 3 Avid suites so I may be a tad biased.... maybe I'll just buy Premiere Pro / Vegas |
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October 19th, 2005, 08:09 AM | #14 |
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John, Avid allows you to download and use their codec for free. So in a sense, it is a competing product. Smart move on Avids part to allow playback on non Avid systems. I believe Ikegama is going to be using their codec.
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It will support the 720p60 mode from the JVC GY-HD100.
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