Tim's DVX settings work at DVinfo.net

Nate Weaver · October 13th, 2005, 09:15 PM

So I haven't been posting much because I had a big job come along, another concert video. It shot last Friday, and I had to get a rough cut of 22 mins of footage done by today.

I've been doing these concerts for over 2 years on DVXs because they're just plain the standard for the budget level. Of course I sold my DVX for the HD100, so all last week while running around like a fruitcake getting ready for this, I realized I had don't my own matching to the DVX settings I use for my concerts.

Of course Tim had posted all this, which couldn't have been better timing. I always shoot what I call "hero" cam on my shoots, which is a position at FOH that tracks the singer from straight on...and I have to say, Tim's settings were dead on for color. My blacks fell off a little quicker than the DVX guys, but that also could have been because I consistently expose under the rest of the guys also.

After watching my first cut on my TV via DVD, it is apparent the HD100 is sharper than the DVXs...but not distractingly so. One camera out of 9 is not a high ratio, but if you had a whole shoot using HD100s, it'd definitely be a step up.

Anyway, my only point was to just mention that yes, Tim's settings are at the VERY least "in the ballpark", if not dead on. Yay Tim!

[edit: Oh, and I forgot to mention that after the show I had to shoot some reportage in the poorly lit dressing room...I went for 12db. After the night was over I realized what I had done, shot +12 in a dark room with a flat white wall behind the subject(s). Came out fine, no split.]

Tim Dashwood · October 13th, 2005, 09:54 PM

That's great to hear they work in a practical application... considering I haven't even had a chance to test them properly - just on the scopes.

You didn't happen to have 7.5% setup level turned on with the DVX's? That could account for the black differences.

I'd love to see some frame grabs, if NDA/copyright allows?

Tim

Nate Weaver · October 13th, 2005, 09:55 PM

Nope, didn't have setup on the DVX's...I have to keep setup out of the picture because I stay digital the whole way to Digibeta delivery.

I uploaded stills, watch your email.

Michael Maier · October 14th, 2005, 05:14 AM

Way to go. Tim's settings are great indeed!
Nate, did you shoot SD with the HD100 or downconverted from HD?

Nate Weaver · October 14th, 2005, 02:21 PM

Just DV 24PA. I knew I wouldn't have time to do a conversion on this job. Plus I wanted it to look more like a DVX, not less.

Michael Maier · October 14th, 2005, 03:33 PM

24PA? I didn't know the HD100 had 24p advanced. Is that what you mean by 24PA?

Nate Weaver · October 14th, 2005, 05:14 PM

Yup. It shoots the same modes as a DVX100, if that's what you need. I'm talking DV mode here, not HDV.

Michael Maier · October 14th, 2005, 06:51 PM

I didn't know that. I know in HD is has no 24PA, but I didn't really look at DV that well yet.

October 13th, 2005, 09:15 PM	#1
Nate Weaver Wrangler Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 2,100	Tim's DVX settings work So I haven't been posting much because I had a big job come along, another concert video. It shot last Friday, and I had to get a rough cut of 22 mins of footage done by today. I've been doing these concerts for over 2 years on DVXs because they're just plain the standard for the budget level. Of course I sold my DVX for the HD100, so all last week while running around like a fruitcake getting ready for this, I realized I had don't my own matching to the DVX settings I use for my concerts. Of course Tim had posted all this, which couldn't have been better timing. I always shoot what I call "hero" cam on my shoots, which is a position at FOH that tracks the singer from straight on...and I have to say, Tim's settings were dead on for color. My blacks fell off a little quicker than the DVX guys, but that also could have been because I consistently expose under the rest of the guys also. After watching my first cut on my TV via DVD, it is apparent the HD100 is sharper than the DVXs...but not distractingly so. One camera out of 9 is not a high ratio, but if you had a whole shoot using HD100s, it'd definitely be a step up. Anyway, my only point was to just mention that yes, Tim's settings are at the VERY least "in the ballpark", if not dead on. Yay Tim! [edit: Oh, and I forgot to mention that after the show I had to shoot some reportage in the poorly lit dressing room...I went for 12db. After the night was over I realized what I had done, shot +12 in a dark room with a flat white wall behind the subject(s). Came out fine, no split.] __________________ My Work: nateweaver.net

October 13th, 2005, 09:55 PM	#3
Nate Weaver Wrangler Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 2,100	Nope, didn't have setup on the DVX's...I have to keep setup out of the picture because I stay digital the whole way to Digibeta delivery. I uploaded stills, watch your email. __________________ My Work: nateweaver.net

October 14th, 2005, 02:21 PM	#5
Nate Weaver Wrangler Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 2,100	Just DV 24PA. I knew I wouldn't have time to do a conversion on this job. Plus I wanted it to look more like a DVX, not less. __________________ My Work: nateweaver.net

October 14th, 2005, 05:14 PM	#7
Nate Weaver Wrangler Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 2,100	Yup. It shoots the same modes as a DVX100, if that's what you need. I'm talking DV mode here, not HDV. __________________ My Work: nateweaver.net

October 13th, 2005, 09:54 PM	#2
Tim Dashwood Wrangler Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Toronto, ON, Canada Posts: 3,637	That's great to hear they work in a practical application... considering I haven't even had a chance to test them properly - just on the scopes. You didn't happen to have 7.5% setup level turned on with the DVX's? That could account for the black differences. I'd love to see some frame grabs, if NDA/copyright allows? Tim

October 14th, 2005, 05:14 AM	#4
Michael Maier Trustee Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,269	Way to go. Tim's settings are great indeed! Nate, did you shoot SD with the HD100 or downconverted from HD?

October 14th, 2005, 03:33 PM	#6
Michael Maier Trustee Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,269	24PA? I didn't know the HD100 had 24p advanced. Is that what you mean by 24PA?

October 14th, 2005, 06:51 PM	#8
Michael Maier Trustee Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,269	I didn't know that. I know in HD is has no 24PA, but I didn't really look at DV that well yet.