Lenses for JVC GY-HD100

Ron German · April 10th, 2005, 01:28 PM

Steve
I woudn't trust like you any manufacturer.
I also bought a GY-DV500 5 years ago and the provided zoom lense (Fujinon 14X) was a piece of....
I had to buy an industrial U$3000 19X Fujinon (the 20X predecessor) to make the camera works decently.
That zoom also presented very strong saturation and contrast problems along the focal distances.

Best wishes
Ron

Steve Gibby · April 10th, 2005, 03:00 PM

Hey Ron. Sounds like you've been down a similar path (DV500 + Fujinon 19x/20x). I've had real good luck with the 20x. No complaints on resolution or distortion with the lens. There are currently no other 1/3" HD or 1'2" HD lenses to upgrade to if the Fuji 16x and 13x for the HD100 are problem lenses. I'll be at NAB for four days checking out all the offerings from JVC, Panasonic, and Sony. I'll check out the HD100 closely, with the 16x and the 13x. I'll also visit the Fujinon and Canon booths to grill them on what they feel are the best lenses for the HD100, and to ask them what future 1/3" and 1/2" lenses are planned. With any luck both of them will have some solid plans for lenses that will work well on the HD100. After NAB I'll post on DV Info Net my hands-on impressions of the HD100, the lenses, and accessories. If you, or anyone else in the community that can't make it to NAB would like me to check out some specific equipment or features, e-mail me your wish list and I'll do my best to help you out. My experience includes 26 years of national television (700 programs for 12 networks), and multiple Emmy Awards as a producer, director, and cameraman. By now I'm a good judge of technology and what it's possible uses are...

My e-mail: steve@cut4.tv

Ron German · April 10th, 2005, 08:09 PM

Thank you Steve.
I'd really like that the standard DV recording in HD 100 would be good enough to make film out (and better than the XL2).
Have a good trip.
Ron

Joe Carney · April 12th, 2005, 10:34 AM

I'm hoping P+S Technik will have something soon after release. If I can't afford to buy, I could at least rent . I think the JVC and the Technik are going to be made for each other.

But the proof will be in the image quality. Not the specs.

Robert Shuster · April 12th, 2005, 05:18 PM

A P&S Mini35 or equivalent would be very nice but would sell for the same price as the camera (or close). If someone could make a 1/3in to 2/3in or PL the I could use DigiPrimes or regular primes. Heck, it's only a third of an inch.

Martin Polach · April 12th, 2005, 11:11 PM

<<<-- Originally posted by Robert Shuster: If someone could make a 1/3in to 2/3in or PL the I could use DigiPrimes or regular primes. Heck, it's only a third of an inch. -->>>

The 2/3" adapter would allow to put digiprimes and other 2/3" lenses onto GY-HD100, but dont you think these adapters use just some center spot of the lens - they dont use whole area available by the lens? Make the lens more telephoto and less wide?

I honestly HATE this on my digital SLR still camera, thats why I still try to shoot on film.

Ignacio Rodriguez · April 13th, 2005, 10:03 AM

It's about time for somebody to make a prosumer-priced ground glass or virtual image adapter that translates the image from 35mm lenses to smaller sensor sizes. This camera really screams for such an adapter, and because it has a lens mount, it's much simpler (read: less expensive) to make one for the HD100 than for the PD170, HDX200, Z1/FX1, DVX100, etc.

Barry Green · April 13th, 2005, 12:12 PM

People are doing that already. I'm getting a beta-test unit of the Guerilla35 adapter tomorrow. I don't know anything about the quality of the unit, but there are some entrepreneurs out there trying to package and sell complete adapters like that.

Ignacio Rodriguez · April 13th, 2005, 12:49 PM

Cool! Hope you have not signed an NDA and can tell us about it! Is it GG-based or does it use some other principle? Are you actually testing this on an HD100????

Steve Gibby · April 13th, 2005, 01:19 PM

Today Fujinon just announced a new ENG 1/2" HD lens designed for the Sony HDC-X300. Perhaps it could be adapted with a JVC mount, and the new JVC 1'2" to 1/3" stepdown, for use on the HD100. It's 18x, so it would give extra length for nature and sports shooters over the stock Fujinon 16x.

Link: http://www.digitalproducer.com/articles/viewarticle.jsp?id=31807

April 10th, 2005, 03:00 PM	#17
Steve Gibby Major Player Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Southwest Utah & worldwide Posts: 398	Hey Ron. Sounds like you've been down a similar path (DV500 + Fujinon 19x/20x). I've had real good luck with the 20x. No complaints on resolution or distortion with the lens. There are currently no other 1/3" HD or 1'2" HD lenses to upgrade to if the Fuji 16x and 13x for the HD100 are problem lenses. I'll be at NAB for four days checking out all the offerings from JVC, Panasonic, and Sony. I'll check out the HD100 closely, with the 16x and the 13x. I'll also visit the Fujinon and Canon booths to grill them on what they feel are the best lenses for the HD100, and to ask them what future 1/3" and 1/2" lenses are planned. With any luck both of them will have some solid plans for lenses that will work well on the HD100. After NAB I'll post on DV Info Net my hands-on impressions of the HD100, the lenses, and accessories. If you, or anyone else in the community that can't make it to NAB would like me to check out some specific equipment or features, e-mail me your wish list and I'll do my best to help you out. My experience includes 26 years of national television (700 programs for 12 networks), and multiple Emmy Awards as a producer, director, and cameraman. By now I'm a good judge of technology and what it's possible uses are... My e-mail: steve@cut4.tv __________________ Steve Gibby, RED One SN 0008, 2 others. Epic M SN 0008, 2 others, Canon 5D. Linked In - Steve Gibby Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/stevegibby/

April 12th, 2005, 05:18 PM	#20
Robert Shuster Hollywood Studio Rentals Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Burbank, CA Posts: 24	It would be nice, but... A P&S Mini35 or equivalent would be very nice but would sell for the same price as the camera (or close). If someone could make a 1/3in to 2/3in or PL the I could use DigiPrimes or regular primes. Heck, it's only a third of an inch. __________________ Cheers and Best Wishes

April 12th, 2005, 11:11 PM	#21
Martin Polach Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Czech republic Posts: 35	Re: It would be nice, but... <<<-- Originally posted by Robert Shuster: If someone could make a 1/3in to 2/3in or PL the I could use DigiPrimes or regular primes. Heck, it's only a third of an inch. -->>> The 2/3" adapter would allow to put digiprimes and other 2/3" lenses onto GY-HD100, but dont you think these adapters use just some center spot of the lens - they dont use whole area available by the lens? Make the lens more telephoto and less wide? I honestly HATE this on my digital SLR still camera, thats why I still try to shoot on film.

April 13th, 2005, 10:03 AM	#22
Ignacio Rodriguez Contributor Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Santiago, Chile Posts: 932	It's about time for somebody to make a prosumer-priced ground glass or virtual image adapter that translates the image from 35mm lenses to smaller sensor sizes. This camera really screams for such an adapter, and because it has a lens mount, it's much simpler (read: less expensive) to make one for the HD100 than for the PD170, HDX200, Z1/FX1, DVX100, etc. __________________ Ignacio Rodríguez in the third world. @micronauta on Twitter. Main hardware: brain, eyes, hands.

April 13th, 2005, 12:49 PM	#24
Ignacio Rodriguez Contributor Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Santiago, Chile Posts: 932	Cool! Hope you have not signed an NDA and can tell us about it! Is it GG-based or does it use some other principle? Are you actually testing this on an HD100???? __________________ Ignacio Rodríguez in the third world. @micronauta on Twitter. Main hardware: brain, eyes, hands.

April 10th, 2005, 01:28 PM	#16
Ron German Major Player Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Rio de Janeiro - Brasil Posts: 304	Steve I woudn't trust like you any manufacturer. I also bought a GY-DV500 5 years ago and the provided zoom lense (Fujinon 14X) was a piece of.... I had to buy an industrial U$3000 19X Fujinon (the 20X predecessor) to make the camera works decently. That zoom also presented very strong saturation and contrast problems along the focal distances. Best wishes Ron

April 10th, 2005, 08:09 PM	#18
Ron German Major Player Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Rio de Janeiro - Brasil Posts: 304	Thank you Steve. I'd really like that the standard DV recording in HD 100 would be good enough to make film out (and better than the XL2). Have a good trip. Ron

April 12th, 2005, 10:34 AM	#19
Joe Carney Inner Circle Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Centreville Va Posts: 1,828	I'm hoping P+S Technik will have something soon after release. If I can't afford to buy, I could at least rent . I think the JVC and the Technik are going to be made for each other. But the proof will be in the image quality. Not the specs.

April 13th, 2005, 12:12 PM	#23
Barry Green Barry Wan Kenobi Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: North Carolina Posts: 3,863	People are doing that already. I'm getting a beta-test unit of the Guerilla35 adapter tomorrow. I don't know anything about the quality of the unit, but there are some entrepreneurs out there trying to package and sell complete adapters like that.

April 13th, 2005, 01:19 PM	#25
Steve Gibby Major Player Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Southwest Utah & worldwide Posts: 398	Today Fujinon just announced a new ENG 1/2" HD lens designed for the Sony HDC-X300. Perhaps it could be adapted with a JVC mount, and the new JVC 1'2" to 1/3" stepdown, for use on the HD100. It's 18x, so it would give extra length for nature and sports shooters over the stock Fujinon 16x. Link: http://www.digitalproducer.com/articles/viewarticle.jsp?id=31807 __________________ Steve Gibby, RED One SN 0008, 2 others. Epic M SN 0008, 2 others, Canon 5D. Linked In - Steve Gibby Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/stevegibby/