Problems with JVC GY-HD100 on Final Cut/multiple clips at DVinfo.net

Peter Kappes · January 13th, 2009, 04:01 PM

Hi ,

I know this is probably an old issue, but I'm just now coming across it. Im using the JVC Gy-HD100 Camera. I just got the firmware upgrade. Im trying to capture HDV 720p 24fps and I still keep getting a ton of small little clips while capturing. The problem I am having is that it seems to lose frames every time its cuts the clip. Does anyone know what I have to do to solve this problem? Is it possible to capture with this camera without getting 100's of clips? Please help

Thank you

Jason McCormy · January 13th, 2009, 04:12 PM

That is what happened to me. I finally figured it out to be about 30 tapes that I bought at once where at least 40 percent of them are bad. I hope your is simple to solve.

David Knaggs · January 13th, 2009, 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter Kappes

Is it possible to capture with this camera without getting 100's of clips?

Hi Peter.

There's a two-step process that eliminates the "mid-clip breaks". Using this method you can capture each individual take fully or, if you like, capture the entire tape as one big QuickTime movie.

1/ Capture as an .m2t file using DVHSCap or HDVxDV.
HDVxDV is a paid application and DVHSCap is free from the Apple website. To obtain DVHSCap, go to Apple Developer Connection - Development Kits and download "FireWire SDK 20 for Mac OS X (DMG)" (2005-06-06).

2/ Wrap each .m2t file in a QuickTime wrapper using a paid application called ClipWrap.
ClipWrap

Now your QuickTime movies can be directly imported to Final Cut Pro (FCP) and you can drop them into a native timeline, if you wish, and start editing.

There are other capture alternatives, but this one brings your full clips into FCP retaining 100% quality and with no transcoding.

Peter Kappes · January 13th, 2009, 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David Knaggs

Hi Peter.

2/ Wrap each .m2t file in a QuickTime wrapper using a paid application called ClipWrap.
ClipWrap

David,

Thank you so much for your reply and helping me out in this situation. You saved me alot of headache. I have a questions about clipwrap

1. Does the purchase of a license enable me to use the application as many times as I want?

2. Since I have final cut studio 2 (the most recent) it already allows the use of all the different formats of videos in the timeline. Does this have anything to do with what I would be using clipwrap for? hopefully you understand what im tryin to say, just let me know.

David Knaggs · January 13th, 2009, 09:51 PM

1/ Yes. I think the license is probably the usual type (as far as I can recall). Use it as often as you like but only have it installed on one computer at a time. That sort of thing. We have a "sticky" thread at the top of this forum dedicated just to ClipWrap:
http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/jvc-pro-h...available.html

2/ ClipWrap will provide you with a fully functioning QuickTime movie in HDV 720p24 which you can drop straight onto your timeline. You can use Easy Setup for "HDV 720p24" and then make a new sequence so that you are editing "natively" in HDV 720p24. This is a very quick and easy way to do your edit because FCP does NOT have to render the clips.

If you want to work in a sequence with different codec settings, that's fine. FCP can render your HDV 720p24 clips (generated by ClipWrap) into the new codec but, as you said, FCP has the capability to play various clips of different codecs (as far as I know) in a single timeline without rendering. (But it will render when you export as a QuickTime movie.) I usually only work with clips of a single codec in a timeline, but I'm sure others on this forum have more experience with that function and could chip in if needed.

(I hope I've understood your second question properly.)

Note: ClipWrap can also make QuickTime movies of footage shot by your GY-HD100 in 720p30 and 720p25.

Steve Oakley · January 14th, 2009, 12:24 AM

use the HDV->ProRes Preset. it works. it even sees the correct 24FPS timecode instead of the hacked 24->29.97NDF that the capture window does. the down side is, it puts the deck / camera into play and just records. there is no machine control. its dumb mode capture. however it does see breaks correctly, and makes a new clip on real start / stops. one can hope apple will fix this as its been a miserable mess. feel free to complain here

Apple - Final Cut Pro - Feedback

the more people complain, the more likely it is to get fixed. if every one who reads this agrees and actually bothers to do this, that will make an impact. tell them to "fix HDV720P capture" - false clip breaks, read 24fps TC as 24, ect.

Gibran Jimenez · January 14th, 2009, 11:26 AM

Just wanted to share that i capture using hdv 30p apple intermediate codec and it breaks the clips at the points where the camera stopped recording.. it does look like a mess at first but once i start categorizing the shots under basic folders like > Guests, Greetings, Used, Bad comp, etc... it starts clearing up my bin and its easy to go back and forth to clips that i havent used.. Just to let you guys know that not everyone thinks its bad...

but it does not have missing frames it only cuts the clip when i stopped recording.

January 13th, 2009, 04:01 PM	#1
Peter Kappes New Boot Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Palmdale Posts: 5	Problems with JVC GY-HD100 on Final Cut/multiple clips Hi , I know this is probably an old issue, but I'm just now coming across it. Im using the JVC Gy-HD100 Camera. I just got the firmware upgrade. Im trying to capture HDV 720p 24fps and I still keep getting a ton of small little clips while capturing. The problem I am having is that it seems to lose frames every time its cuts the clip. Does anyone know what I have to do to solve this problem? Is it possible to capture with this camera without getting 100's of clips? Please help Thank you

January 14th, 2009, 11:26 AM	#7
Gibran Jimenez New Boot Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 9	I don't have a problem with the mutliple clips. Just wanted to share that i capture using hdv 30p apple intermediate codec and it breaks the clips at the points where the camera stopped recording.. it does look like a mess at first but once i start categorizing the shots under basic folders like > Guests, Greetings, Used, Bad comp, etc... it starts clearing up my bin and its easy to go back and forth to clips that i havent used.. Just to let you guys know that not everyone thinks its bad... but it does not have missing frames it only cuts the clip when i stopped recording.

January 13th, 2009, 04:12 PM	#2
Jason McCormy Major Player Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Agoura California Posts: 268	That is what happened to me. I finally figured it out to be about 30 tapes that I bought at once where at least 40 percent of them are bad. I hope your is simple to solve.

January 13th, 2009, 09:51 PM	#5
David Knaggs Major Player Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 826	1/ Yes. I think the license is probably the usual type (as far as I can recall). Use it as often as you like but only have it installed on one computer at a time. That sort of thing. We have a "sticky" thread at the top of this forum dedicated just to ClipWrap: http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/jvc-pro-h...available.html 2/ ClipWrap will provide you with a fully functioning QuickTime movie in HDV 720p24 which you can drop straight onto your timeline. You can use Easy Setup for "HDV 720p24" and then make a new sequence so that you are editing "natively" in HDV 720p24. This is a very quick and easy way to do your edit because FCP does NOT have to render the clips. If you want to work in a sequence with different codec settings, that's fine. FCP can render your HDV 720p24 clips (generated by ClipWrap) into the new codec but, as you said, FCP has the capability to play various clips of different codecs (as far as I know) in a single timeline without rendering. (But it will render when you export as a QuickTime movie.) I usually only work with clips of a single codec in a timeline, but I'm sure others on this forum have more experience with that function and could chip in if needed. (I hope I've understood your second question properly.) Note: ClipWrap can also make QuickTime movies of footage shot by your GY-HD100 in 720p30 and 720p25.

January 14th, 2009, 12:24 AM	#6
Steve Oakley Trustee Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: United States Posts: 1,158	use the HDV->ProRes Preset. it works. it even sees the correct 24FPS timecode instead of the hacked 24->29.97NDF that the capture window does. the down side is, it puts the deck / camera into play and just records. there is no machine control. its dumb mode capture. however it does see breaks correctly, and makes a new clip on real start / stops. one can hope apple will fix this as its been a miserable mess. feel free to complain here Apple - Final Cut Pro - Feedback the more people complain, the more likely it is to get fixed. if every one who reads this agrees and actually bothers to do this, that will make an impact. tell them to "fix HDV720P capture" - false clip breaks, read 24fps TC as 24, ect.