Which JVC for Wildlife?

Dave Tyrer · November 20th, 2008, 01:09 PM

Great videos Ted - apart from the HD100 and 200 what's your setup?

also, re the 201E...what's the point of Firewire in?

Dave

Ted Ramasola · November 20th, 2008, 07:56 PM

Thanks Dave,

Aside from tourism related videos, I do a lot of corporate and commercial work. -thats said means our setup must be able to do diversified boards and needs.
So we have a jib, track dollies, a pair of mini-skaters, a couple of 35 mm lens adapters, -all these made in-house. Also our flou and MH lights are reconfigured fixtures made also in house.

Recently, i've been using the FS-F4HD for DTE. Its so convenient and a time saver. No more drop outs from tape and tape capture.

My HD100 is an E version. Meaning it doesnt have IN. But i didnt miss having rec IN which is what the E disabled.
My 200 is U and can do rec in but I don't use it.

I guess for some they like to archive their work by recording back to tape but my workflow is such that archive is the raw tapes (before i got FS) together with consolidated project files burned to DL dvds.

Ted

Dave Tyrer · November 21st, 2008, 08:07 AM

Spoke to a vendor this morning who recommended Sony EX1 and HVR-Z7E. When asked about JVC he said were issues editing 720p...is that the case or was he just pushing Sony gear?

Ted Ramasola · November 21st, 2008, 09:25 AM

Our facility has 5 suites using Edius as an NLE that eats 720p everyday.
Our purchase of the 2nd jvc shows how we are comfortable with it.

The reason that 720p post is hard is not a valid sales pitch, BUT the bigger sensor of the EX and its workflow should be among your considerations.

I'm not biased against brands, we have 2 DVXs in our studio, the sony hd1000, and they have their uses in consumer level work. We had the vx1000 also that we used extensively for commercial work before. So, I look at them as tools, its up to your work demands that dictate which you can use comfortably.

In wildlife work, you need the ability to change to longer lenses, the ex1 cant do that. the z7 has a 1/3 inch sensor, same as the JVC BUT its cmos. And the form factor of jvc is better than z7. -in my work that is.

Brian Luce · November 21st, 2008, 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Tyrer

Spoke to a vendor this morning who recommended Sony EX1 and HVR-Z7E. When asked about JVC he said were issues editing 720p...is that the case or was he just pushing Sony gear?

I love the way these sales guys make stuff up for self serving reasons.

Dave Tyrer · November 21st, 2008, 03:57 PM

OK assuming I go for the 200E.

I'll probably get a Nikon 70-200 or Sigma 100-300, Vision 6 head and carbon legs. So I would also need software, rails, matte box. Any particular brands, vendors, approx prices?

I'm based in the UK so local vendors would be preferable.

I'm getting there!

Thanks

Dave

Jason Davis · November 21st, 2008, 11:24 PM

Hi Dave, I have the hd-100, through my searching the cavision rail system has come up and looks real good, (RS-15II along with RPMD90) Cavision Rods Support System for Mini-DV with Heavy Duty Riser
check it out.

Alex Humphrey · November 23rd, 2008, 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian Luce

I love the way these sales guys make stuff up for self serving reasons.

yeah same here! Half the GOP and lower verticle resolution is soooooo much more demanding on a computer system... Yeah right. Oh and half to 1/4 the render time in downcobverting to DVD or Internet

Shaun Roemich · November 23rd, 2008, 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Tyrer

OK assuming I go for the 200E.

I'll probably get a Nikon 70-200 or Sigma 100-300,

Remember that you'll need a way to MOUNT the 70 - 200 or 100 - 300...

Dave Tyrer · November 24th, 2008, 05:56 AM

Thanks Shaun...I've got that covered. I'll probably go for the MTP adapter.

Just trying to sort out support rails and mounting at the moment. I've contacted Truelens and Cavision for solutions and quotes.

November 20th, 2008, 01:09 PM	#16
Dave Tyrer Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: UK Posts: 174	Great videos Ted - apart from the HD100 and 200 what's your setup? also, re the 201E...what's the point of Firewire in? Dave Last edited by Dave Tyrer; November 20th, 2008 at 04:40 PM.

November 20th, 2008, 07:56 PM	#17
Ted Ramasola Trustee Join Date: May 2005 Location: Allen, Texas U.S.A Posts: 1,117	Thanks Dave, Aside from tourism related videos, I do a lot of corporate and commercial work. -thats said means our setup must be able to do diversified boards and needs. So we have a jib, track dollies, a pair of mini-skaters, a couple of 35 mm lens adapters, -all these made in-house. Also our flou and MH lights are reconfigured fixtures made also in house. Recently, i've been using the FS-F4HD for DTE. Its so convenient and a time saver. No more drop outs from tape and tape capture. My HD100 is an E version. Meaning it doesnt have IN. But i didnt miss having rec IN which is what the E disabled. My 200 is U and can do rec in but I don't use it. I guess for some they like to archive their work by recording back to tape but my workflow is such that archive is the raw tapes (before i got FS) together with consolidated project files burned to DL dvds. Ted

November 21st, 2008, 08:07 AM	#18
Dave Tyrer Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: UK Posts: 174	Spoke to a vendor this morning who recommended Sony EX1 and HVR-Z7E. When asked about JVC he said were issues editing 720p...is that the case or was he just pushing Sony gear?

November 21st, 2008, 09:25 AM	#19
Ted Ramasola Trustee Join Date: May 2005 Location: Allen, Texas U.S.A Posts: 1,117	Our facility has 5 suites using Edius as an NLE that eats 720p everyday. Our purchase of the 2nd jvc shows how we are comfortable with it. The reason that 720p post is hard is not a valid sales pitch, BUT the bigger sensor of the EX and its workflow should be among your considerations. I'm not biased against brands, we have 2 DVXs in our studio, the sony hd1000, and they have their uses in consumer level work. We had the vx1000 also that we used extensively for commercial work before. So, I look at them as tools, its up to your work demands that dictate which you can use comfortably. In wildlife work, you need the ability to change to longer lenses, the ex1 cant do that. the z7 has a 1/3 inch sensor, same as the JVC BUT its cmos. And the form factor of jvc is better than z7. -in my work that is.

November 21st, 2008, 03:57 PM	#21
Dave Tyrer Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: UK Posts: 174	OK assuming I go for the 200E. I'll probably get a Nikon 70-200 or Sigma 100-300, Vision 6 head and carbon legs. So I would also need software, rails, matte box. Any particular brands, vendors, approx prices? I'm based in the UK so local vendors would be preferable. I'm getting there! Thanks Dave

November 21st, 2008, 11:24 PM	#22
Jason Davis Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Missoula Posts: 54	Hi Dave, I have the hd-100, through my searching the cavision rail system has come up and looks real good, (RS-15II along with RPMD90) Cavision Rods Support System for Mini-DV with Heavy Duty Riser check it out.

November 24th, 2008, 05:56 AM	#25
Dave Tyrer Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: UK Posts: 174	Thanks Shaun...I've got that covered. I'll probably go for the MTP adapter. Just trying to sort out support rails and mounting at the moment. I've contacted Truelens and Cavision for solutions and quotes.