BR-HD50 only for JVC? at DVinfo.net

Charles Barreto · October 16th, 2008, 10:35 PM

I was wondering if anyone knows or can direct me to a different thread were this might have been covered...I just can't seem to find an answer.

I have been asked to edit a corporate video for a local company...but they will supply all of the HDV footage shot with Canon's HV-20's and 30"s.

Would I be able to feed these through my BR-HD50 and edit? Does it output 1080...and does it do it well. I have only used my deck for stuff I have shot with the GY-HD100...but now I wonder. How does it all work?

Thanks

Steve Oakley · October 16th, 2008, 11:48 PM

no. Those cams are 1080. Get one of the cams to edit. Then again using those cams expect the worst for sound and pic

Charles Barreto · October 17th, 2008, 06:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve Oakley

no. Those cams are 1080. Get one of the cams to edit. Then again using those cams expect the worst for sound and pic

Ok...how about mastering. Once I get the footage in and finish my edit, can I output via the BR-HD50? I thought I read somewhere that it could output 1080.

Mark Silva · October 17th, 2008, 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Charles Barreto

Ok...how about mastering. Once I get the footage in and finish my edit, can I output via the BR-HD50? I thought I read somewhere that it could output 1080.

it can output 1080i over component only and thats an upconvert of
720P only.

Better to use the cams instead (they are your only option if it was shot 24f by the way)
if it was shot at 30fps then any of the sony hdv decks will also work.

Steve Oakley · October 17th, 2008, 12:42 PM

or put another way : the deck only inputs

1. SD in composite / y/c

2 HD via FW / 720p

yes we all wish it had component or SDI in. JVC showed such a box 2 NAB's ago and killed it it seems because of one thing - everyone said it was way too expensive. they were suggesting $5k I think and every one said thats nuts when you can deliver a camera for that price and this box is basically a subset of that camera - the video A-D + mpeg2 encoder - the DSP.

so I do wish JVC or some one would come out with a 1K-2K SDI / component to HDV converter so that you could send the deck a real HD video signal.

Charles Barreto · October 17th, 2008, 01:08 PM

They told me they could also shoot it with a HVX200 and give me the cards. My problem is still the output.

SO is it safe to say that if they shoot this with the HVX200 at 720p I could later output it with the BR-HD50 at 720p? Also, if later I would to shoot added footage with my JVC, would both 720p match up in a timeline with no problem and master to tape with no problem?

Sorry about the questions...it is such a headache when a client wants to minimize the costs by doing some of the work themselves.... ARG!

Steve Oakley · October 17th, 2008, 01:19 PM

the HXV200 shoots DVCpro. yes you can mix and match DVCpro and HDV together in a TL. FCP6+ is happy with this.

here it the pain point. when you are done with you edit, you will need to set the TL to a 720p HDV setting, conform the TL, then send it to tape. however, if you pick a DVCpro setup, your pixel aspects will be off and you'll have to adjust some shots. I"d pick 1280X720 SQUARE pixels and ProRes. edit away, then when you are done, change the TL to 720p HDV. I've never done this exact route, but it should work. a quick test should confirm it.

do you really need to go to tape ? why not hand off a QT and save yourself a lot of time.

Mark Silva · October 17th, 2008, 04:51 PM

charles do yourself a HUGE favor and have them shoot on the HVX
and give you the cards.

edit and keep it in DVCPRO-HD the entire time the output a master
file and put it on a hard drive or Blu-Ray data disc.

DVCPRO-HD is a great stable, proven workflow that won't give
you any headaches at all.

October 16th, 2008, 10:35 PM	#1
Charles Barreto Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Tampa, Florida Posts: 37	BR-HD50 only for JVC? I was wondering if anyone knows or can direct me to a different thread were this might have been covered...I just can't seem to find an answer. I have been asked to edit a corporate video for a local company...but they will supply all of the HDV footage shot with Canon's HV-20's and 30"s. Would I be able to feed these through my BR-HD50 and edit? Does it output 1080...and does it do it well. I have only used my deck for stuff I have shot with the GY-HD100...but now I wonder. How does it all work? Thanks

October 16th, 2008, 11:48 PM	#2
Steve Oakley Trustee Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: United States Posts: 1,158	no. Those cams are 1080. Get one of the cams to edit. Then again using those cams expect the worst for sound and pic

October 17th, 2008, 12:42 PM	#5
Steve Oakley Trustee Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: United States Posts: 1,158	or put another way : the deck only inputs 1. SD in composite / y/c 2 HD via FW / 720p yes we all wish it had component or SDI in. JVC showed such a box 2 NAB's ago and killed it it seems because of one thing - everyone said it was way too expensive. they were suggesting $5k I think and every one said thats nuts when you can deliver a camera for that price and this box is basically a subset of that camera - the video A-D + mpeg2 encoder - the DSP. so I do wish JVC or some one would come out with a 1K-2K SDI / component to HDV converter so that you could send the deck a real HD video signal.

October 17th, 2008, 01:08 PM	#6
Charles Barreto Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Tampa, Florida Posts: 37	They told me they could also shoot it with a HVX200 and give me the cards. My problem is still the output. SO is it safe to say that if they shoot this with the HVX200 at 720p I could later output it with the BR-HD50 at 720p? Also, if later I would to shoot added footage with my JVC, would both 720p match up in a timeline with no problem and master to tape with no problem? Sorry about the questions...it is such a headache when a client wants to minimize the costs by doing some of the work themselves.... ARG!

October 17th, 2008, 01:19 PM	#7
Steve Oakley Trustee Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: United States Posts: 1,158	the HXV200 shoots DVCpro. yes you can mix and match DVCpro and HDV together in a TL. FCP6+ is happy with this. here it the pain point. when you are done with you edit, you will need to set the TL to a 720p HDV setting, conform the TL, then send it to tape. however, if you pick a DVCpro setup, your pixel aspects will be off and you'll have to adjust some shots. I"d pick 1280X720 SQUARE pixels and ProRes. edit away, then when you are done, change the TL to 720p HDV. I've never done this exact route, but it should work. a quick test should confirm it. do you really need to go to tape ? why not hand off a QT and save yourself a lot of time.

October 17th, 2008, 04:51 PM	#8
Mark Silva Major Player Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Pacific NW Posts: 431	charles do yourself a HUGE favor and have them shoot on the HVX and give you the cards. edit and keep it in DVCPRO-HD the entire time the output a master file and put it on a hard drive or Blu-Ray data disc. DVCPRO-HD is a great stable, proven workflow that won't give you any headaches at all.