Ok, folks - 24P question here

Shaun Roemich · May 22nd, 2008, 12:10 PM

As well, I'm a bigger fan of 4:2:0 colour space over 4:1:1 after 11 years of shooting DV/DVCam.

Todd Norris · May 22nd, 2008, 12:46 PM

I have to agree that shooting HDV on the JVC looks much better than SD. Perhaps the combination of 709 color space, 4:2:0 compression and the obvious 1280x720 vs. 720x480 accounts for this. More resolution, more latitude, better color fidelity, etc.

Alex Humphrey · May 7th, 2009, 08:07 AM

I just watched part of a spider man movie at the store, ( i live in the sticks.. have to drive to the next county to see a good HDTV). and i was watching the new Sony XBR9 32" 120hz set with the motion gizmos off. Just the 120hz. WOW! I mean WOW for 24p motion. It was like being in the theater. I checked the techno video HDTV forums and it was well liked, but most people keep their motion smoothing hardware OFF on the TV as well. The big thing it was 120 hz. I might have to get one this month.

I guess my point was, on film based movies (spider man in this case) it also exhibited the juddering strobing effect on medium speed pans that you do not see at the theater because most LCD's are 60 hz. The 120 panels refresh in sequence with the 24p much better and that strobing effect was not evident.

So if you check out one of the new 120hz, watch a HD movie and also try switching the motion smoothing garbage off. Apparently it goes toooo far and can result in electronic double images, according to other forums.

May 22nd, 2008, 12:10 PM	#46
Shaun Roemich Inner Circle Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Vancouver, British Columbia (formerly Winnipeg, Manitoba) Canada Posts: 4,088	As well, I'm a bigger fan of 4:2:0 colour space over 4:1:1 after 11 years of shooting DV/DVCam. __________________ Shaun C. Roemich Road Dog Media - Vancouver, BC - Videographer - Webcaster www.roaddogmedia.ca Blog: http://roaddogmedia.wordpress.com/

May 7th, 2009, 08:07 AM	#48
Alex Humphrey Major Player Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: california North and South Posts: 642	has anyone else reseen their 24p footage on a 120hz monitor? I just watched part of a spider man movie at the store, ( i live in the sticks.. have to drive to the next county to see a good HDTV). and i was watching the new Sony XBR9 32" 120hz set with the motion gizmos off. Just the 120hz. WOW! I mean WOW for 24p motion. It was like being in the theater. I checked the techno video HDTV forums and it was well liked, but most people keep their motion smoothing hardware OFF on the TV as well. The big thing it was 120 hz. I might have to get one this month. I guess my point was, on film based movies (spider man in this case) it also exhibited the juddering strobing effect on medium speed pans that you do not see at the theater because most LCD's are 60 hz. The 120 panels refresh in sequence with the 24p much better and that strobing effect was not evident. So if you check out one of the new 120hz, watch a HD movie and also try switching the motion smoothing garbage off. Apparently it goes toooo far and can result in electronic double images, according to other forums.

May 22nd, 2008, 12:46 PM	#47
Todd Norris Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Overland Park, Kansas Posts: 48	I have to agree that shooting HDV on the JVC looks much better than SD. Perhaps the combination of 709 color space, 4:2:0 compression and the obvious 1280x720 vs. 720x480 accounts for this. More resolution, more latitude, better color fidelity, etc.