New JVC GY-HD200UB

Jaadgy Akanni · April 11th, 2008, 05:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by James Thirston

I would say that there is no difference between the cams however what they mean is that they can only upgrade cams bought after Feb 1 for "free". People that bought their cam before this date will probably have to pay a minimum hourly rate to have this upgrade done.

JT

That begs the question, ¿Will this firmware upgrade have any relevance in relation to Convergent Designs' XDR?

Steve Mullen · April 11th, 2008, 06:09 AM

As long as the bit-stream is standard HD2 -- anything that inputs HD2 should work.

One question -- does Device Control work when the camcorder is outputting HD2?

By that I mean both Timecode output and VTR Control.

George Strother · April 16th, 2008, 07:56 PM

Has anyone seen 1080i footage created on a 200 series cameras? Is it good quality 1080i or are there serious artifacts?

Robert Bec · April 19th, 2008, 03:25 AM

what is the lux on this camera

Rob.

James Thirston · April 19th, 2008, 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robert Bec

what is the lux on this camera

Rob.

Rob, it's just a 200 with a firmware upgrade. There is no other difference between the U & UB (or E & EB for Aus.) models; i.e the lux is the same as the existing models - hence why some of us have been a little disappointed at what JVC has decided to call a "NEW MODEL". I'm not a big Sony fan, however the announcement of the PMW-EX3 is worthy to be called a new "NEW MODEL".

Just the thoughts of a dumb consumer...

JT

Johnnie Behiri · April 20th, 2008, 03:24 AM

This is not a firmware upgrade. It is a camera modification, that it why it has to be send to a JVC service center.

James Thirston · April 20th, 2008, 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johnnie Behiri

This is not a firmware upgrade. It is a camera modification, that it why it has to be send to a JVC service center.

Where did you hear that?

I got my information after speaking with my local JVC service rep.

JT

Johnnie Behiri · April 20th, 2008, 03:36 PM

JVC product manager at NAB

James Thirston · April 20th, 2008, 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johnnie Behiri

JVC product manager at NAB

Did they tell you what was involved in the upgrade? (I ask you this because I actually asked them to tell me specifically what was involved and they said firmware only.)

Okay, we'll have to reserve further speculation until they make their official announcement, as stated on their website:

" Specific details of this modification will be posted on May 1st, 2008 at the JVC Pro web site. "

Johnnie Behiri · April 20th, 2008, 04:05 PM

Hi James.

From the information I got it is very strait forward...send the camera for a modification....

Lets wait for as you wrote for May 1st.

Thanks.

J.

Glen Vandermolen · April 21st, 2008, 01:48 PM

So what does the 1080i feature in the Video Format do? Is that for shooting live video?

Jad Meouchy · April 21st, 2008, 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by James Thirston

I would say that there is no difference between the cams however what they mean is that they can only upgrade cams bought after Feb 1 for "free". People that bought their cam before this date will probably have to pay a minimum hourly rate to have this upgrade done.

Exactly. For those of us who bought our camera in the last 3 months, this is a courtesy service.

Sean Adair · April 22nd, 2008, 12:41 PM

The response I have from JVC (published earlier in this topic) also supports that this is more than firmware. If it were only firmware, there would be no reason to withhold it from all 200 series users.

I suspect there is a relatively minor parts upgrade - maybe a chip exchange or something. They are willing to do this work for the recent purchasers to save dissatisfaction with their purchase, but it would be challenging to deal with all the 200's sold. Probably dealing with this group of previous owners has to be strategized. If it can be done for a reasonably priced, fast turnaround upgrade I'll want it, since I deal with producers needing specific formats frequently. Having the "current" model will be attractive to many of us of course.

Glen - I think it's pretty clearly described. You get 1080i HDV through FW so you can record live to a DR-HD100 (or the new flash beast). Not to tape. This format would be compatible with Sony HDV footage projects, and also native for many HD cable stations.

Glen Vandermolen · May 13th, 2008, 02:38 PM

Well, the website lists the upgrade as a hardware enhancement. So much for a simple download fix.
I called JVC and they couldn't tell me why my HD200 purchased prior to 2/1/08 can't be modified. They only stated that my camera wasn't eligible. Very frustrating. I mean, what's the freakin' difference between a camera ordered on January 31st and one on February 1st???
I have a call in to the area sales rep and my local rep. Maybe they can provide answers.

Sean Adair · May 14th, 2008, 11:55 AM

Patience, Glen. JVC is considering how to best respond to the legacy owners. As I posted before, it's been clear for awhile that there is a modification required. It remains to be seen whether this will be practical for legacy owners, but clearly it's more of an issue for JVC to appease recent purchasers, as is common throughout the tech industries.
I suspect it may become available for a price, which even if high, would settle most of us down into a more practical analysis of how much the feature is worth to us rather than merely wanting the latest and greatest because it's there.

April 11th, 2008, 06:09 AM	#32
Steve Mullen HDV Cinema Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 4,007	As long as the bit-stream is standard HD2 -- anything that inputs HD2 should work. One question -- does Device Control work when the camcorder is outputting HD2? By that I mean both Timecode output and VTR Control. __________________ Switcher's Quick Guide to the Avid Media Composer >>> http://home.mindspring.com/~d-v-c

April 22nd, 2008, 12:41 PM	#43
Sean Adair Major Player Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: New York, NY Posts: 463	The response I have from JVC (published earlier in this topic) also supports that this is more than firmware. If it were only firmware, there would be no reason to withhold it from all 200 series users. I suspect there is a relatively minor parts upgrade - maybe a chip exchange or something. They are willing to do this work for the recent purchasers to save dissatisfaction with their purchase, but it would be challenging to deal with all the 200's sold. Probably dealing with this group of previous owners has to be strategized. If it can be done for a reasonably priced, fast turnaround upgrade I'll want it, since I deal with producers needing specific formats frequently. Having the "current" model will be attractive to many of us of course. Glen - I think it's pretty clearly described. You get 1080i HDV through FW so you can record live to a DR-HD100 (or the new flash beast). Not to tape. This format would be compatible with Sony HDV footage projects, and also native for many HD cable stations. __________________ Sean Adair - NYC - www.adairproductions.com JVC GY-HM-700 with 17x5 lens, MacPro 3.2ghz 8-core, 18gb. (JVC HD200 4 sale soon)

May 14th, 2008, 11:55 AM	#45
Sean Adair Major Player Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: New York, NY Posts: 463	Patience, Glen. JVC is considering how to best respond to the legacy owners. As I posted before, it's been clear for awhile that there is a modification required. It remains to be seen whether this will be practical for legacy owners, but clearly it's more of an issue for JVC to appease recent purchasers, as is common throughout the tech industries. I suspect it may become available for a price, which even if high, would settle most of us down into a more practical analysis of how much the feature is worth to us rather than merely wanting the latest and greatest because it's there. __________________ Sean Adair - NYC - www.adairproductions.com JVC GY-HM-700 with 17x5 lens, MacPro 3.2ghz 8-core, 18gb. (JVC HD200 4 sale soon)

April 16th, 2008, 07:56 PM	#33
George Strother Major Player Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 204	Has anyone seen 1080i footage created on a 200 series cameras? Is it good quality 1080i or are there serious artifacts?

April 19th, 2008, 03:25 AM	#34
Robert Bec Major Player Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Sydney Australia Posts: 358	what is the lux on this camera Rob.

April 20th, 2008, 03:24 AM	#36
Johnnie Behiri Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Vienna/Austria Posts: 187	This is not a firmware upgrade. It is a camera modification, that it why it has to be send to a JVC service center.

April 20th, 2008, 03:36 PM	#38
Johnnie Behiri Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Vienna/Austria Posts: 187	JVC product manager at NAB

April 20th, 2008, 04:05 PM	#40
Johnnie Behiri Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Vienna/Austria Posts: 187	Hi James. From the information I got it is very strait forward...send the camera for a modification.... Lets wait for as you wrote for May 1st. Thanks. J.

April 21st, 2008, 01:48 PM	#41
Glen Vandermolen Space Hipster Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Jacksonville, FL Posts: 1,596	So what does the 1080i feature in the Video Format do? Is that for shooting live video?

May 13th, 2008, 02:38 PM	#44
Glen Vandermolen Space Hipster Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Jacksonville, FL Posts: 1,596	Well, the website lists the upgrade as a hardware enhancement. So much for a simple download fix. I called JVC and they couldn't tell me why my HD200 purchased prior to 2/1/08 can't be modified. They only stated that my camera wasn't eligible. Very frustrating. I mean, what's the freakin' difference between a camera ordered on January 31st and one on February 1st??? I have a call in to the area sales rep and my local rep. Maybe they can provide answers.