BR-HD50 not visible in Windows Vista-64 at DVinfo.net

Joachim Claus · February 27th, 2008, 04:40 AM

I installed Vista-64 just for becoming more familiar with the new OS and its features. While almost all components work fine, I cannot use JVC's BR-HD50 until now. The operating system does not recognize it when connecting it to a IEEE1394 port. It is not a matter of the port, as it recognizes my Camcorder GY-HD200.
Does anybody have an idea?

Joachim Claus

Stuart Campbell · February 27th, 2008, 06:19 AM

I have the same problem in XP pro! Sometimes it just won't see the HD50. I find that if I switch between HDV and DV on IE1394 enough times and restart, sometimes kick it, it works! Sometimes it doesn't sometimes it does!

I've checked, tested and tried EVERYTHING!!

Jay Webster · February 28th, 2008, 10:00 AM

Yes, I have exactly the same problem with Vista. I find it strange since it will recognize the camera, just not the BR-HD50. It makes no sense to me. I tried to post about this before, but no one had an answer. I have been told elswhere that we will have to wait for a Windows Vista service pack release with updated drivers...etc.
Again, what is most confusing is that Vista does see the camera! Isn't the deck basically the same tape mechanism as the camera without sensors and optics?????
Hopefully some one will have some input here, we can't be the only one with this problem!

Jay Webster
WPI/NY

Joachim Claus · February 29th, 2008, 03:16 AM

I contacted both, Micrososft and JVC. From Microsoft I got the answer, that it is not a Vista-Problem, but a Problem of a missing driver to be provided by JVC. From JVC I got the answer, that until now the BR-HD50 is not cert5ified for Vista.

My assumption is, that somewhere in Vista is a filter, which does not pass the connect request coming from the tape recorder. It is based on the hardware identity of the recorder, which it passes to the host computer when connecting.

I have tried to modify the Vista registry, however, the new security mechanisms do not allow to make changes in certain entries. I have not yet found a method to switch-off thes security mechanisms.

Joachim Claus

Werner Wesp · February 29th, 2008, 05:54 AM

This is indeed true and very annoying. It is strange because I assumed all OHCI compliant devices would work. The JVC GY-HD100/200/250 camcorders work, the HD50 recorder doesn't.

I have first encountered this problem about 7 months ago and notified tech staff of JVC. Still no progress it seems, and I suppose it won't be any time soon. An update of vista probably?

Joachim Claus · March 1st, 2008, 06:33 AM

I have installed Vista Service Pack 1. No change with BR-HD50.

Joachim Claus

Randy Johnson · March 1st, 2008, 07:49 AM

Does this problem happen just in VISTA or XP Pro too?

Joachim Claus · March 2nd, 2008, 04:00 PM

HD50 is recognized in Windows XP Prof. without problems. However, I had to install the SP1 driver. With SP2 I had the same problems.

With Vista I have not managed to install the XP-driver.

Jay Webster · March 22nd, 2008, 08:52 AM

As Joachim has pointed out, I too have no problem with XP (I have SP2 installed and there is no problem). I was hoping that the service pack 1 for Vista would solve the problem, but if I understand correctly it apparently does not!
quite frustrating.

Jay Webster

Jay Webster · April 20th, 2008, 06:31 PM

I have just installed the new firmware (vers. 1.09) for the Br-HD50 and Vista will now recognize the deck. I can even capture in Premiere CS-3 with complete control. BTW this is now working without having installed Vista SP-1!
Give the new firmware a try!
Hope this helps all those who are having this frustrating problem!

Jay Webster
Dir/Cameraman
NY

Joachim Claus · April 29th, 2008, 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jay Webster

I have just installed the new firmware (vers. 1.09) for the Br-HD50 and Vista will now recognize the deck. I can even capture in Premiere CS-3 with complete control. BTW this is now working without having installed Vista SP-1!
Give the new firmware a try!
Hope this helps all those who are having this frustrating problem!

Jay Webster
Dir/Cameraman
NY

Thank you Jay for this information. I have asked JVC Germany for the new frimware and got it the same day. The recorder is now recognized by Vista.

For the US-version of the BR-HD50(U), the update is available for download from JVC's US-homepage.

Joachim

February 27th, 2008, 04:40 AM	#1
Joachim Claus Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Seeheim-Jugenheim, Germany Posts: 132	BR-HD50 not visible in Windows Vista-64 I installed Vista-64 just for becoming more familiar with the new OS and its features. While almost all components work fine, I cannot use JVC's BR-HD50 until now. The operating system does not recognize it when connecting it to a IEEE1394 port. It is not a matter of the port, as it recognizes my Camcorder GY-HD200. Does anybody have an idea? Joachim Claus

February 28th, 2008, 10:00 AM	#3
Jay Webster Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: New York Posts: 131	BR-HD50 not visible in Windows Vista-64 Yes, I have exactly the same problem with Vista. I find it strange since it will recognize the camera, just not the BR-HD50. It makes no sense to me. I tried to post about this before, but no one had an answer. I have been told elswhere that we will have to wait for a Windows Vista service pack release with updated drivers...etc. Again, what is most confusing is that Vista does see the camera! Isn't the deck basically the same tape mechanism as the camera without sensors and optics????? Hopefully some one will have some input here, we can't be the only one with this problem! Jay Webster WPI/NY

February 29th, 2008, 03:16 AM	#4
Joachim Claus Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Seeheim-Jugenheim, Germany Posts: 132	BR-HD50 not visible in Windows Vista-64 I contacted both, Micrososft and JVC. From Microsoft I got the answer, that it is not a Vista-Problem, but a Problem of a missing driver to be provided by JVC. From JVC I got the answer, that until now the BR-HD50 is not cert5ified for Vista. My assumption is, that somewhere in Vista is a filter, which does not pass the connect request coming from the tape recorder. It is based on the hardware identity of the recorder, which it passes to the host computer when connecting. I have tried to modify the Vista registry, however, the new security mechanisms do not allow to make changes in certain entries. I have not yet found a method to switch-off thes security mechanisms. Joachim Claus

February 29th, 2008, 05:54 AM	#5
Werner Wesp Major Player Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Belgium Posts: 497	This is indeed true and very annoying. It is strange because I assumed all OHCI compliant devices would work. The JVC GY-HD100/200/250 camcorders work, the HD50 recorder doesn't. I have first encountered this problem about 7 months ago and notified tech staff of JVC. Still no progress it seems, and I suppose it won't be any time soon. An update of vista probably? __________________ High-Definition Video Consultant - CEO of Delimex NV - http://www.delimex.be gear of choice : http://www.wespgear.com

April 20th, 2008, 06:31 PM	#10
Jay Webster Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: New York Posts: 131	BR-HD50 not visible in Windows Vista-64 I have just installed the new firmware (vers. 1.09) for the Br-HD50 and Vista will now recognize the deck. I can even capture in Premiere CS-3 with complete control. BTW this is now working without having installed Vista SP-1! Give the new firmware a try! Hope this helps all those who are having this frustrating problem! Jay Webster Dir/Cameraman NY

February 27th, 2008, 06:19 AM	#2
Stuart Campbell Major Player Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Hannover, Germany Posts: 400	I have the same problem in XP pro! Sometimes it just won't see the HD50. I find that if I switch between HDV and DV on IE1394 enough times and restart, sometimes kick it, it works! Sometimes it doesn't sometimes it does! I've checked, tested and tried EVERYTHING!!

March 1st, 2008, 06:33 AM	#6
Joachim Claus Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Seeheim-Jugenheim, Germany Posts: 132	I have installed Vista Service Pack 1. No change with BR-HD50. Joachim Claus

March 1st, 2008, 07:49 AM	#7
Randy Johnson Trustee Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Newark, Delaware Posts: 1,067	Does this problem happen just in VISTA or XP Pro too?

March 2nd, 2008, 04:00 PM	#8
Joachim Claus Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Seeheim-Jugenheim, Germany Posts: 132	HD50 is recognized in Windows XP Prof. without problems. However, I had to install the SP1 driver. With SP2 I had the same problems. With Vista I have not managed to install the XP-driver.

March 22nd, 2008, 08:52 AM	#9
Jay Webster Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: New York Posts: 131	As Joachim has pointed out, I too have no problem with XP (I have SP2 installed and there is no problem). I was hoping that the service pack 1 for Vista would solve the problem, but if I understand correctly it apparently does not! quite frustrating. Jay Webster