Any new updates with JVC? at DVinfo.net

Brian Duke · February 26th, 2008, 06:29 PM

I haven't been here in ages, but I was curious if there are any new updates on the JVC camera after the release of 200/250?

Any improvements? Especially since the Red camera came out.

Robert Bec · February 27th, 2008, 04:48 PM

From what i have heard there will be a update release on the 251 using the larger tapes better low light it will be released here in australia next moth so they say.

Adam Letch · February 27th, 2008, 06:12 PM

is it inside or from the JVC news or something??

Adam

Randy Johnson · February 27th, 2008, 08:39 PM

My guess is check out NAB.

John Sirb · February 27th, 2008, 08:51 PM

I think the lower MSRP on the 110 and 200 ( and not the 250) is a signal that something's coming to replace those 2 models.

David Knaggs · February 27th, 2008, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by John Sirb

I think the lower MSRP on the 110 and 200 ( and not the 250) is a signal that something's coming to replace those 2 models.

For JVC's sake, I hope so. I've long considered the JVC to be the premiere sub-$10k HD camera for indie filmmakers with its genuine 1280 X 720 chips and other pro features. But now they seem to have been totally "flanked" by Sony with their release of the PMW-EX1 with its genuine 1920 x 1080 1/2" sensors and 1080p for US$6500. If you were looking for a purchase today would you go for 720p on 1/3" chips or 1080p on 1/2" sensors? Especially with Blu-Ray (a 1080p delivery medium) winning the recent format war.

So I'm interested to see what JVC announce at NAB. If they release 1080p capability on at least 1/2" chips, added to their form factor and interchangeable lens capabilities for sub-$10k they could reclaim the "high ground".

And they could really "flank" Sony if they recorded to CF cards (a la RED) rather than expensive proprietary media (such as Sony and Panasonic). A 16GB SxS card for the PMW-EX1 is $1,300 Australian. This gives 50 minutes of high quality 1080p recording.

If JVC recorded a 4:2:2 intra-frame codec onto a CF card, wow!

Because JVC don't have a "high-end" camera to protect (by limiting features) it's possible they could do this.

So NAB should be interesting.

Mark Silva · February 28th, 2008, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by David Knaggs

If you were looking for a purchase today would you go for 720p on 1/3" chips or 1080p on 1/2" sensors? Especially with Blu-Ray (a 1080p delivery medium) winning the recent format war.

I own the HD100 and can say I would be looking at 1080P 1/2", hell I'd be looking at 1/2" over 1/3" even if they were both 720P only.

HD DVD was also a 1080P delivery medium btw, just obsolete now :)

Randy Johnson · February 28th, 2008, 01:08 PM

For what I do 720p is fine, I just want better low light performance. Although I have to say i'll be ticked off no matter what i've already bought my 2 GY-HD100s and dont have a bugdet for new ones. So in that case a nice upgrade to the 100/110 that will improve the low light performance please:)

Jad Meouchy · February 28th, 2008, 03:20 PM

the Sony XDCAM EX has a rolling shutter, like the HV20, and even like the RED

rolling shutter is bad; it's a dealbreaker for any action sequences or vfx work

stick with the JVC for now, but wait until NAB to see what's announced

Robert Bec · March 2nd, 2008, 05:27 PM

I heard from actual reps and the guys way above them what is on the way and they said body will be a little different and it will take bigger tapes better low light i hope it records in 1080

Dennis Robinson · March 3rd, 2008, 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Robert Bec

I heard from actual reps and the guys way above them what is on the way and they said body will be a little different and it will take bigger tapes better low light i hope it records in 1080

Hi Robert,
I am in Perth. What sort of tapes would hey be if they were bigger?

Robert Bec · March 3rd, 2008, 04:00 PM

Dennis

the large 3hr jvc HD tapes same size as dvcam tapes so they say

Rob

Giuseppe Pugliese · March 10th, 2008, 04:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Mark Silva

I own the HD100 and can say I would be looking at 1080P 1/2", hell I'd be looking at 1/2" over 1/3" even if they were both 720P only.

HD DVD was also a 1080P delivery medium btw, just obsolete now :)

Just to let everyone know, HD-DVD was NOT a 1080p delivery medium, it was for 720p-1080i. Absolutely no support for actual progressive 1080 footage. This is why it won the war on the tech side... I always liked the sound of "BlueRay" anyway haha.

Daniel Weber · March 10th, 2008, 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Giuseppe Pugliese

Just to let everyone know, HD-DVD was NOT a 1080p delivery medium, it was for 720p-1080i. Absolutely no support for actual progressive 1080 footage. This is why it won the war on the tech side... I always liked the sound of "BlueRay" anyway haha.

Sorry. Wrong. The higher end HD-DVD players did 1080p.

Sean Adair · March 11th, 2008, 11:57 AM

I really shouldn't, but for the record, only Toshiba's lowest priced model (of 5 at the end of this debacle) the X-A3 and previously Xa2, were limited to 1080i. Also, when watching 24p originated material, it was de-interlaced in a way to get full progressive frames at the lower frame rate. Only high motion footage was less sharp.

Now we face some prohibitive licensing fees for Blu-ray, and short-run production (as opposed to burning individual discs) is going to be a major downer for the niche and smaller HD video producers.

slap slap, back on track....

February 26th, 2008, 06:29 PM	#1
Brian Duke Major Player Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Hollywood, California Posts: 899	Any new updates with JVC? I haven't been here in ages, but I was curious if there are any new updates on the JVC camera after the release of 200/250? Any improvements? Especially since the Red camera came out. __________________ Visit me and my work at www.artofduke.com

February 27th, 2008, 06:12 PM	#3
Adam Letch Major Player Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Perth, Western Australia Posts: 414	robert where did you get that from is it inside or from the JVC news or something?? Adam

February 27th, 2008, 08:51 PM	#5
John Sirb Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Amherst, OH Posts: 134	I think the lower MSRP on the 110 and 200 ( and not the 250) is a signal that something's coming to replace those 2 models. __________________ John Sirb Lake Breeze Video

February 28th, 2008, 03:20 PM	#9
Jad Meouchy Major Player Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 663	the Sony XDCAM EX has a rolling shutter, like the HV20, and even like the RED rolling shutter is bad; it's a dealbreaker for any action sequences or vfx work stick with the JVC for now, but wait until NAB to see what's announced __________________ software engineer

March 11th, 2008, 11:57 AM	#15
Sean Adair Major Player Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: New York, NY Posts: 463	I really shouldn't, but for the record, only Toshiba's lowest priced model (of 5 at the end of this debacle) the X-A3 and previously Xa2, were limited to 1080i. Also, when watching 24p originated material, it was de-interlaced in a way to get full progressive frames at the lower frame rate. Only high motion footage was less sharp. Now we face some prohibitive licensing fees for Blu-ray, and short-run production (as opposed to burning individual discs) is going to be a major downer for the niche and smaller HD video producers. slap slap, back on track.... __________________ Sean Adair - NYC - www.adairproductions.com JVC GY-HM-700 with 17x5 lens, MacPro 3.2ghz 8-core, 18gb. (JVC HD200 4 sale soon)

February 27th, 2008, 04:48 PM	#2
Robert Bec Major Player Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Sydney Australia Posts: 358	From what i have heard there will be a update release on the 251 using the larger tapes better low light it will be released here in australia next moth so they say.

February 27th, 2008, 08:39 PM	#4
Randy Johnson Trustee Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Newark, Delaware Posts: 1,067	My guess is check out NAB.

February 28th, 2008, 01:08 PM	#8
Randy Johnson Trustee Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Newark, Delaware Posts: 1,067	For what I do 720p is fine, I just want better low light performance. Although I have to say i'll be ticked off no matter what i've already bought my 2 GY-HD100s and dont have a bugdet for new ones. So in that case a nice upgrade to the 100/110 that will improve the low light performance please:)

March 2nd, 2008, 05:27 PM	#10
Robert Bec Major Player Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Sydney Australia Posts: 358	I heard from actual reps and the guys way above them what is on the way and they said body will be a little different and it will take bigger tapes better low light i hope it records in 1080

March 3rd, 2008, 04:00 PM	#12
Robert Bec Major Player Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Sydney Australia Posts: 358	Dennis the large 3hr jvc HD tapes same size as dvcam tapes so they say Rob