Editing JVC on a PC

Brian Luce · December 12th, 2007, 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Cowherd

Guys,
I installed the giveaway copy of edius broadcast that i got with my hd 250 and it will not work on my MS windows vista operating system. Am i doing something wrong or is it only for windows XP or is there a patch.
Thanks,
Mark

Yes, you're making a major errror. There's an easy fix though, dump Vista, install
XP Pro. It'll work better than a saline enema.

Vista is a real dog. None of my programs ran on it. I switched backed to XP and everything is perfect. Life is good now.

Bill Ravens · December 13th, 2007, 08:28 AM

Hi Adam...

I can't say enough good things about Cineform Neo HDv and Vegas. CFHD has saved my bacon, a few times when I was getting black frames when I imported m2t streams into Vegas. Turns out, Vegas 8a is very sensitive to discontinuities in the timecode. At any rate, HDLink read the m2t files very well and transcoded to the Cineform Intermediate without a hiccup.

Marc Colemont · December 13th, 2007, 09:44 AM

Now a days all these packages provide decent tools. It's just what you are used to, that you like the most.
Myself, I'm having very good and stable results with Cineform in combination with Adobe PPro 2.0.
One rule I learned the hard way is:
As long as one keeps the system clean of tons of small extra packages installed on the XP Pro, it runs very stable. My editing machine is for editing only since 5 years. I don't install try-out software packages, updates, the latest drivers over and over all the time etc...

Werner Wesp · December 17th, 2007, 05:35 AM

Indeed. Your PC for editing HD should be used for that only. Think of it as a workstation. Sony Vegas is a good choice - but the other work fine as well. It is important to choose an editing program of which you like the interface. Since they all have very similar features it has virtually become a matter of taste.

Do chack out CineForm as well. It is perfect for encoding masters or boosting performance.

Jon Jaschob · December 17th, 2007, 12:10 PM

[QUOTE=Werner Wesp;793960]Indeed. Your PC for editing HD should be used for that only. Think of it as a workstation. QUOTE]

Although this ^^ is ideal, I use one computer for everything, including trial software, beta software, internet and Aces High (WW2 Fighter Sim). All is well while capture/editing/rendering HD. I simply can't afford a dedicated machine for just editing. So if you have a good machine to begin with, you should be ok running most things normally used in everyday computer life.
Jon

Marc Colemont · December 17th, 2007, 12:43 PM

Then you should consider a dual boot partition.
One partition with a clean install for editing, and one for internet and trial versions.

Jim Andrada · December 17th, 2007, 10:54 PM

Or VMware - which is great for trying new stuff. At one time I had a virtual machine dedicated to e-mail and internet browsing only. It worked fine for isolating my main applicaions from Internet garbage. I'm using two separate machines at the moment, but may go back to VMware on one machine. Haven't tried capuring etc in a virtual machine but hope to get around to trying it one of these days.

Suzanne Lucas · December 23rd, 2007, 10:46 PM

I have the Vegas 8 and I am trying to get it all installed and have hit a bump. Everytime I try to install the Media Manager part It tells me that "SQL Server Setup Unexpectedly Failed". Has anyone else run into this? Help. I am so close........

Adam Letch · December 25th, 2007, 02:27 AM

without trying to be fascicious, are you using 8.0a?
I've not encountered the problem, have you used a demo version previously?

Regards

Adam

ps - Merry Christmas to all, may your Christmas's be bright, and safe, and Happy New Year as well.

Brian Luce · December 25th, 2007, 07:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Suzanne Lucas

I have the Vegas 8 and I am trying to get it all installed and have hit a bump. Everytime I try to install the Media Manager part It tells me that "SQL Server Setup Unexpectedly Failed". Has anyone else run into this? Help. I am so close........

Are you using Vista? I think this is a known issue with Vegas and Vista.

Suzanne Lucas · December 25th, 2007, 04:56 PM

I am using 8.0a with no previously installed versions and I am not using Vista. OS is Windows XP SP2 Media Center edition. Sony sent an email and we had tried all of those fixes already. So I am still trying to complete the instalation of my software. Merry Christmas to you as well Adam.

Les Howarth · December 26th, 2007, 07:21 AM

Media Manager is a separate install isn't it?
It is not essential to have it to run Vegas, I think I remember a few reports of probs like this and some recommendations not to install it.

from the error message, it may require an installation of SQL to run the media database.

I recently got Vegas 8 but for really for DVD Architect, not to use it for editing.
I am using the generators in Vegas to make graphic backgrounds for videos which I edit in Liquid or Edius (which I am trying out at the moment)

Les Howarth.

Reid Bailey · December 26th, 2007, 12:07 PM

Yet another Vegas vote.
It's extremely powerful and very user friendly.

Suzanne Lucas · December 27th, 2007, 08:41 AM

Les, thanks you are indeed correct. I talked with Sony to see what the actual function of Media Manager is (as the name implies it is to manage a large number of media files, go figure) it is not neccesary to run Vegas. I just went in to options-preferences and unchecked the box for Media Manager so I will not get the error message everytime I bring it up. Thanks so much. Have a safe and Happy new Year everyone.

December 17th, 2007, 05:35 AM	#19
Werner Wesp Major Player Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Belgium Posts: 497	Indeed. Your PC for editing HD should be used for that only. Think of it as a workstation. Sony Vegas is a good choice - but the other work fine as well. It is important to choose an editing program of which you like the interface. Since they all have very similar features it has virtually become a matter of taste. Do chack out CineForm as well. It is perfect for encoding masters or boosting performance. __________________ High-Definition Video Consultant - CEO of Delimex NV - http://www.delimex.be gear of choice : http://www.wespgear.com

December 17th, 2007, 12:43 PM	#21
Marc Colemont Major Player Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Belgium Posts: 695	Then you should consider a dual boot partition. One partition with a clean install for editing, and one for internet and trial versions. __________________ Marc Colemont - Belgium - http://www.mc-productions.be JVC GY-HM850's, HM890, HM600

December 25th, 2007, 02:27 AM	#24
Adam Letch Major Player Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Perth, Western Australia Posts: 414	hey Suzanne without trying to be fascicious, are you using 8.0a? I've not encountered the problem, have you used a demo version previously? Regards Adam ps - Merry Christmas to all, may your Christmas's be bright, and safe, and Happy New Year as well. Last edited by Adam Letch; December 25th, 2007 at 11:44 PM.

December 26th, 2007, 07:21 AM	#27
Les Howarth Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Manchester England Posts: 40	vegas media manager Media Manager is a separate install isn't it? It is not essential to have it to run Vegas, I think I remember a few reports of probs like this and some recommendations not to install it. from the error message, it may require an installation of SQL to run the media database. I recently got Vegas 8 but for really for DVD Architect, not to use it for editing. I am using the generators in Vegas to make graphic backgrounds for videos which I edit in Liquid or Edius (which I am trying out at the moment) Les Howarth.

December 27th, 2007, 08:41 AM	#29
Suzanne Lucas Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Colorado Springs, Colorado Posts: 44	Thank You Les, thanks you are indeed correct. I talked with Sony to see what the actual function of Media Manager is (as the name implies it is to manage a large number of media files, go figure) it is not neccesary to run Vegas. I just went in to options-preferences and unchecked the box for Media Manager so I will not get the error message everytime I bring it up. Thanks so much. Have a safe and Happy new Year everyone. Last edited by Suzanne Lucas; December 28th, 2007 at 07:51 AM.

December 13th, 2007, 08:28 AM	#17
Bill Ravens Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: santa fe, nm Posts: 3,264 Images: 10	Hi Adam... I can't say enough good things about Cineform Neo HDv and Vegas. CFHD has saved my bacon, a few times when I was getting black frames when I imported m2t streams into Vegas. Turns out, Vegas 8a is very sensitive to discontinuities in the timecode. At any rate, HDLink read the m2t files very well and transcoded to the Cineform Intermediate without a hiccup.

December 13th, 2007, 09:44 AM	#18
Marc Colemont Major Player Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Belgium Posts: 695	Now a days all these packages provide decent tools. It's just what you are used to, that you like the most. Myself, I'm having very good and stable results with Cineform in combination with Adobe PPro 2.0. One rule I learned the hard way is: As long as one keeps the system clean of tons of small extra packages installed on the XP Pro, it runs very stable. My editing machine is for editing only since 5 years. I don't install try-out software packages, updates, the latest drivers over and over all the time etc...

December 17th, 2007, 12:10 PM	#20
Jon Jaschob Major Player Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 232	[QUOTE=Werner Wesp;793960]Indeed. Your PC for editing HD should be used for that only. Think of it as a workstation. QUOTE] Although this ^^ is ideal, I use one computer for everything, including trial software, beta software, internet and Aces High (WW2 Fighter Sim). All is well while capture/editing/rendering HD. I simply can't afford a dedicated machine for just editing. So if you have a good machine to begin with, you should be ok running most things normally used in everyday computer life. Jon

December 17th, 2007, 10:54 PM	#22
Jim Andrada Inner Circle Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Tucson AZ Posts: 2,211	Or VMware - which is great for trying new stuff. At one time I had a virtual machine dedicated to e-mail and internet browsing only. It worked fine for isolating my main applicaions from Internet garbage. I'm using two separate machines at the moment, but may go back to VMware on one machine. Haven't tried capuring etc in a virtual machine but hope to get around to trying it one of these days.

December 23rd, 2007, 10:46 PM	#23
Suzanne Lucas Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Colorado Springs, Colorado Posts: 44	I have the Vegas 8 and I am trying to get it all installed and have hit a bump. Everytime I try to install the Media Manager part It tells me that "SQL Server Setup Unexpectedly Failed". Has anyone else run into this? Help. I am so close........

December 25th, 2007, 04:56 PM	#26
Suzanne Lucas Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Colorado Springs, Colorado Posts: 44	I am using 8.0a with no previously installed versions and I am not using Vista. OS is Windows XP SP2 Media Center edition. Sony sent an email and we had tried all of those fixes already. So I am still trying to complete the instalation of my software. Merry Christmas to you as well Adam.

December 26th, 2007, 12:07 PM	#28
Reid Bailey Major Player Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Fredericksburg, Va Posts: 220	Yet another Vegas vote. It's extremely powerful and very user friendly.