Wide angle solutions at DVinfo.net

Julian Maytum · August 30th, 2007, 09:51 AM

Hi all!

I am in need of a wide angle solution for my HD100 pretty quick as I am going to be shooting a lot of real estate videos for local realtors (nice niche market btw if you want to make a few bucks).

I looked at the standard JVC wide angle adapter ($509 from B&H) and it doesn't seem that wide to me.

Any reasonable solutions out there that would suit my needs?

Thanks in advance and wonderful resource as always.

Julia

Jack Walker · August 30th, 2007, 10:06 AM

Check this thread and the links in the posts to other threads (the second post has a link to the basic info about Century Adapters.)
http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthrea...ght=wide+angle

There are several choices of varying quality which are all discussed in this thread and the links.

Laszlo Horvath · September 2nd, 2007, 01:00 PM

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Laszlo Horvath · September 2nd, 2007, 01:08 PM

So, which WA adapter I need if I need zooming?

Ryan Avery · November 26th, 2007, 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laszlo Horvath

So, which WA adapter I need if I need zooming?

You need to purchase the following adapter to gain full zooming capabilities:

http://www.schneideroptics.com/Ecomm...=1085&IID=1367

Ryan Avery
Regional Sales Representative
Schneider Optics

Jack Walker · November 26th, 2007, 08:46 PM

The JVC one (.82x) is also zoom through:
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...ough_Wide.html

Arguably, the .8x Century is marginally better optics, especially on the edges.

See the threads referenced above for the other options.

I have a .6x Century for my XH-A1. This is not fully zoom through. However, I have found for wideangle, the zoom is rarely necessary. The size can be changed by moving in an out easier. (It gives an excellent picture, by the way.)

Laszlo Horvath · November 27th, 2007, 02:24 AM

Where can I find the 0.8 WA converter by Century Optics? I checked on B&H's website, but I'm confused, which one is the right one for the HD110. Please show the link if possible. The one I find on B&H's website, that's for a 72mm lens
Thanks

Petr Bastar · November 27th, 2007, 03:24 AM

Hi,

can I ask a question, if the new lenses for the new Sonys 1/3 HDV cams can be used on JVC? They will also have one wider, like canon has. Can we see more 1/3 lenses in the future?

Petr

Ryan Avery · November 27th, 2007, 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laszlo Horvath

Where can I find the 0.8 WA converter by Century Optics? I checked on B&H's website, but I'm confused, which one is the right one for the HD110. Please show the link if possible. The one I find on B&H's website, that's for a 72mm lens
Thanks

The Century .8x for Broadcast cameras is an entirely different animal. It is a clamp on optic and goes onto the Outside Diameter (OD) of the lens. Most lenses that are supplied with the HD110 have an OD of 85mm which is the clamp ring supplied with one of our .8x lenses.

The lens you need if you have a 18x, 19x, or 20x lens is this one:

http://www.schneideroptics.com/Ecomm...=1085&IID=1367

If you have another lens with HD optics (usually with a 98mm or so OD) then you need a different .8x that we make with upgraded optics for HD lenses. The other .8x I referenced above is of excellent quality and an industry standard for zoom through converters for Broadcast. The quality is fine for HD recording but not for HD lenses. Keep this difference in mind. With a $1500 difference in price, be sure you are buying the right one. Or just buy the more expensive one and be done with it but it will be overkill unless you plan on upgrading the lens to and HD lens later on.

Ryan Avery
Regional Sales Representative
Schneider Optics

Jack Walker · November 27th, 2007, 12:18 PM

Here is the B&H link for the Century converter above (and a sunshade for it).
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/cont...arch&Q=*&bhs=t

Do note that if you use a clamp-on converter/adapter on the JVC standard lens, you need a ring or filter screwed into the lens to stiffen it.

Century makes one for this purpose with no glass in it. You can also use a filter for this purpose. If using a filter it seems you don't want one of the ultra thin ones, but rather a full size one that will provide maximum stiffening for the clamp on converter.

Also note that these the clamp on converters and the .7x/.5x adapter (see thread referenced above) are rather heavy. Nevertheless, the quality is excellent and as noted above, they are in standard use in the industry.

'I noticed that Century/Schneider has updated their product page (since I last looked at it) and all the info you need for the standard lens on the JVC is conveniently and clearly here:
http://www.schneideroptics.com/centu...v/jvc/110u.htm

Note: Though it has been said many times before, I'll add it here again:
Converter: 100% zoom through
Adapter: Not zoom through (though some of them are partial zoom through)

Here is the reason for the terminology:
A converter completely changes something into something else. For example, a 10-35mm zoom is converted into a 5-17.5mm zoom.
An adapter "adapts" one type of thing so that it can be used as something else. For example, a 10-35mm zoom is adapted so it can be used as a 3mm wide angle non-zoom lens (or it can be used as a 3-5mm zoom). but its original full function is no longer available.

August 30th, 2007, 09:51 AM	#1
Julian Maytum Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Mount Pearl, NL, Canada Posts: 69	Wide angle solutions Hi all! I am in need of a wide angle solution for my HD100 pretty quick as I am going to be shooting a lot of real estate videos for local realtors (nice niche market btw if you want to make a few bucks). I looked at the standard JVC wide angle adapter ($509 from B&H) and it doesn't seem that wide to me. Any reasonable solutions out there that would suit my needs? Thanks in advance and wonderful resource as always. Julia

September 2nd, 2007, 01:00 PM	#3
Laszlo Horvath Major Player Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: LaSalle Ontario Canada Posts: 289 Images: 5	Magyar Igen, Kanadaban 19 eve. Laci

September 2nd, 2007, 01:08 PM	#4
Laszlo Horvath Major Player Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: LaSalle Ontario Canada Posts: 289 Images: 5	Wide angle zoom So, which WA adapter I need if I need zooming?

November 27th, 2007, 02:24 AM	#7
Laszlo Horvath Major Player Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: LaSalle Ontario Canada Posts: 289 Images: 5	Century Optics on B&H's website Where can I find the 0.8 WA converter by Century Optics? I checked on B&H's website, but I'm confused, which one is the right one for the HD110. Please show the link if possible. The one I find on B&H's website, that's for a 72mm lens Thanks

August 30th, 2007, 10:06 AM	#2
Jack Walker Trustee Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Burbank Posts: 1,811	Check this thread and the links in the posts to other threads (the second post has a link to the basic info about Century Adapters.) http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthrea...ght=wide+angle There are several choices of varying quality which are all discussed in this thread and the links.

November 26th, 2007, 08:46 PM	#6
Jack Walker Trustee Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Burbank Posts: 1,811	The JVC one (.82x) is also zoom through: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...ough_Wide.html Arguably, the .8x Century is marginally better optics, especially on the edges. See the threads referenced above for the other options. I have a .6x Century for my XH-A1. This is not fully zoom through. However, I have found for wideangle, the zoom is rarely necessary. The size can be changed by moving in an out easier. (It gives an excellent picture, by the way.)

November 27th, 2007, 03:24 AM	#8
Petr Bastar Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Ceske Budejovice,Czech republic Posts: 34	Hi, can I ask a question, if the new lenses for the new Sonys 1/3 HDV cams can be used on JVC? They will also have one wider, like canon has. Can we see more 1/3 lenses in the future? Petr

November 27th, 2007, 12:18 PM	#10
Jack Walker Trustee Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Burbank Posts: 1,811	Here is the B&H link for the Century converter above (and a sunshade for it). http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/cont...arch&Q=&bhs=t Do note that if you use a clamp-on converter/adapter on the JVC standard lens, you need a ring or filter screwed into the lens to stiffen it. Century makes one for this purpose with no glass in it. You can also use a filter for this purpose. If using a filter it seems you don't want one of the ultra thin ones, but rather a full size one that will provide maximum stiffening for the clamp on converter. Also note that these the clamp on converters and the .7x/.5x adapter (see thread referenced above) are rather heavy. Nevertheless, the quality is excellent and as noted above, they are in standard use in the industry. 'I noticed that Century/Schneider has updated their product page (since I last looked at it) and all the info you need for the standard lens on the JVC is conveniently and clearly here: http://www.schneideroptics.com/centu...v/jvc/110u.htm Note: Though it has been said many times before, I'll add it here again: Converter: 100% zoom through Adapter: Not zoom through (though some of them are partial zoom through) Here is the reason for the terminology: A converter* completely changes something into something else. For example, a 10-35mm zoom is converted into a 5-17.5mm zoom. An adapter "adapts" one type of thing so that it can be used as something else. For example, a 10-35mm zoom is adapted so it can be used as a 3mm wide angle non-zoom lens (or it can be used as a 3-5mm zoom). but its original full function is no longer available.