Behringer 802 Mixer -> HD10 at DVinfo.net

Mike Pittman · October 9th, 2006, 11:40 AM

What additional cables / equipment do I need to get the output from a Behringer 802 to the HD10? I thought I had everything, but when I connect it all up, I get an evil hissing. I'm thinking this is because the mixer is sending the audio over at line-level, not mic-level. Is that correct? Is there a simple way to go from line-level to mic-level? Do I need something like the Samson S-convert, or the Ebtech Line Level Shifter (http://www.ebtechaudio.com/lls-2des.html). Will something as simple as an attenuating cable from RadioShack do the trick?

And lastly, an open call for any suggestions of what to do better. I'm using two mics right now, both have non-XLR connections. The point of all of this is to setup multiple mics at a wedding or similar event, and be able to mix them according to the volume of the sound source being mic'd.

Any and all help will be greatly appreciated!
--Mike

Ryan Lindsey · October 15th, 2006, 09:00 PM

mike,

mic preamps and line level are not compatible. mic preamps are meant to grab a signal from devices that do not have their own power source (i.e. microphone, guitar, etc.). whereas line level is used to send a signal between two devices that each have their own power sources. when you use a mic preamp to grab a signal from a line level output, your are essentially powering a powered signal. it will definitely cause a tremendous amount of static and hissing like you're describing. your behringer mixer only has line level outputs and your hd10 inputs can not be switched to line level.

my suggestion, in regards to your hd10, is to buy XLR adapters for your mics and plug them directly in to your hd10. they're not expensive and should be available at radio shack for less than $10. you don't need a line level converter. your mixer is not needed and only adds more variables to your production (not to mention more to keep track of!). i understand your desire to adjust the volume in the field, but i'm pretty sure your hd10 uses a built-in automatic volume adjusting circuit that renders your external mixer useless. as you adjust the mixer, the cameras circuit will adjust to compensate and untilmately it decides over you. and, ultimately, it's better to use as few mic preamps per channel as possible.

i hope this helps.

Marco Ba · October 16th, 2006, 01:22 AM

>> but i'm pretty sure your hd10 uses a built-in automatic volume

Yes, it does. It's one of the downsides of the PD1, HD1, HD10 series: Only automatic volume control.

Marco

Mike Pittman · October 16th, 2006, 09:45 AM

Thanks for the info guys. Sounds like if I want to have 100% control over the audio I'll have to figure out how to send the sound to another device... or just learn to deal with the shortcomings of the camera. :)

Thanks again for the details!

October 9th, 2006, 11:40 AM	#1
Mike Pittman Tourist Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Raleigh, NC Posts: 3	Behringer 802 Mixer -> HD10 What additional cables / equipment do I need to get the output from a Behringer 802 to the HD10? I thought I had everything, but when I connect it all up, I get an evil hissing. I'm thinking this is because the mixer is sending the audio over at line-level, not mic-level. Is that correct? Is there a simple way to go from line-level to mic-level? Do I need something like the Samson S-convert, or the Ebtech Line Level Shifter (http://www.ebtechaudio.com/lls-2des.html). Will something as simple as an attenuating cable from RadioShack do the trick? And lastly, an open call for any suggestions of what to do better. I'm using two mics right now, both have non-XLR connections. The point of all of this is to setup multiple mics at a wedding or similar event, and be able to mix them according to the volume of the sound source being mic'd. Any and all help will be greatly appreciated! --Mike

October 15th, 2006, 09:00 PM	#2
Ryan Lindsey New Boot Join Date: May 2006 Location: austin, tx Posts: 18	audio for jvc-hd10 mike, mic preamps and line level are not compatible. mic preamps are meant to grab a signal from devices that do not have their own power source (i.e. microphone, guitar, etc.). whereas line level is used to send a signal between two devices that each have their own power sources. when you use a mic preamp to grab a signal from a line level output, your are essentially powering a powered signal. it will definitely cause a tremendous amount of static and hissing like you're describing. your behringer mixer only has line level outputs and your hd10 inputs can not be switched to line level. my suggestion, in regards to your hd10, is to buy XLR adapters for your mics and plug them directly in to your hd10. they're not expensive and should be available at radio shack for less than $10. you don't need a line level converter. your mixer is not needed and only adds more variables to your production (not to mention more to keep track of!). i understand your desire to adjust the volume in the field, but i'm pretty sure your hd10 uses a built-in automatic volume adjusting circuit that renders your external mixer useless. as you adjust the mixer, the cameras circuit will adjust to compensate and untilmately it decides over you. and, ultimately, it's better to use as few mic preamps per channel as possible. i hope this helps.

October 16th, 2006, 09:45 AM	#4
Mike Pittman Tourist Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Raleigh, NC Posts: 3	Thanks guys! Thanks for the info guys. Sounds like if I want to have 100% control over the audio I'll have to figure out how to send the sound to another device... or just learn to deal with the shortcomings of the camera. :) Thanks again for the details!

October 16th, 2006, 01:22 AM	#3
Marco Ba Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 93	>> but i'm pretty sure your hd10 uses a built-in automatic volume Yes, it does. It's one of the downsides of the PD1, HD1, HD10 series: Only automatic volume control. Marco