HD-1, HC1 or some one chip camera?

Jason Chang · March 3rd, 2006, 09:45 PM

[QUOTE=Erick von Schulz]The HD10 is not that great in low light.. However..

Question: When you say the HD10U is "Not that great" in low light, do you mean it is worse than let's say a Sony VX1000 or a 1CCD minidv cam? If I were to shoot a wedding reception, would the JVC HD10U give me a fuzzy picture during a couple's first dance? How bad is it? Can you please paint me a mental picture? I've seen a few HD10U clips on this site, and they don't look that bad to me. If the HD10U shoots 720P, then doesn't that mean most people would have to watch the downconverted versions of my work? (Given that most HDTV sets support 1080i, but not 720P) Please correct me if I am wrong. Anyway, is the HD10U a good choice for wedding video jobs? Thanks.

Robert M Wright · March 4th, 2006, 04:53 AM

JVC's minimum illumination rating on the HD10U is 35 lux (most consumer cameras are rated much better for minimum illumination). It does need good lighting. With good lighting, you can get a very nice image. It could be pretty rough for shooting a reception, unless the reception is held in a well lit facility. The HD10U would generally be a poor choice for weddings. Try putting sunglasses in front of the lens of a run of the mill consumer camcorder, shoot some footage in your living room (at night) with just a couple lights on, and you'll have some idea what to expect.

Darrin McMillan · March 4th, 2006, 04:59 AM

I have shot wedding's with the JVC HD10. For the darker portions (ie reception, Speeches, Dances) you have to have lighting. If you don't you really won't be happy with your results. For the reception I use a small light kit with a small soft box and dimmer. It isn't intrusive and will give you enough light for the result you need. I couldn't imagine doing it without the light. Here's the thing.. if you get a really dark church you could be in for a bumpy ride because you won't be able to use any lighting. I guess what I'm trying to say is the HD10 is not your first choice when it comes to low light shots. I've been pretty happy with the results I've been able to get. You just have to work for it abit more then most cameras.
Hope that helps.

Robert M Wright · March 4th, 2006, 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darrin McMillan

You just have to work for it abit more then most cameras.

It's not a point and shoot, to be sure.

Tom Roper · March 4th, 2006, 08:47 PM

The GR-HD1 low light footage while dark, at least manages not to be grainy.

Robert M Wright · March 5th, 2006, 01:28 AM

I've boosted brightness, in post, of footage shot with my HD10U under not even all that poor lighting, and saw much more grain (and horrid banding) then I care for (unacceptable, at least to me). Leaving it dark, is well, just dark (not acceptable either, again at least to me).

David Kennett · March 7th, 2006, 01:02 PM

Jason,

You commented that most HDTV sets support 1080i. ALL HDTV sets in US support BOTH 1080i and 720p. CRT CAN be 1080i native. All other (and newer type) displays are native progressive.

Just trying to clarify.

March 3rd, 2006, 09:45 PM	#16
Jason Chang Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: San Diego, CA USA Posts: 163	Jvc Hd10u For Weddings [QUOTE=Erick von Schulz]The HD10 is not that great in low light.. However.. Question: When you say the HD10U is "Not that great" in low light, do you mean it is worse than let's say a Sony VX1000 or a 1CCD minidv cam? If I were to shoot a wedding reception, would the JVC HD10U give me a fuzzy picture during a couple's first dance? How bad is it? Can you please paint me a mental picture? I've seen a few HD10U clips on this site, and they don't look that bad to me. If the HD10U shoots 720P, then doesn't that mean most people would have to watch the downconverted versions of my work? (Given that most HDTV sets support 1080i, but not 720P) Please correct me if I am wrong. Anyway, is the HD10U a good choice for wedding video jobs? Thanks.

March 4th, 2006, 04:59 AM	#18
Darrin McMillan Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Kingston, Ontario Posts: 96	Hd10 I have shot wedding's with the JVC HD10. For the darker portions (ie reception, Speeches, Dances) you have to have lighting. If you don't you really won't be happy with your results. For the reception I use a small light kit with a small soft box and dimmer. It isn't intrusive and will give you enough light for the result you need. I couldn't imagine doing it without the light. Here's the thing.. if you get a really dark church you could be in for a bumpy ride because you won't be able to use any lighting. I guess what I'm trying to say is the HD10 is not your first choice when it comes to low light shots. I've been pretty happy with the results I've been able to get. You just have to work for it abit more then most cameras. Hope that helps.

March 7th, 2006, 01:02 PM	#22
David Kennett Major Player Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: North Ridgeville, Ohio Posts: 407	Jason, You commented that most HDTV sets support 1080i. ALL HDTV sets in US support BOTH 1080i and 720p. CRT CAN be 1080i native. All other (and newer type) displays are native progressive. Just trying to clarify. __________________ Dave

March 4th, 2006, 04:53 AM	#17
Robert M Wright Inner Circle Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Minnesota (USA) Posts: 2,171	JVC's minimum illumination rating on the HD10U is 35 lux (most consumer cameras are rated much better for minimum illumination). It does need good lighting. With good lighting, you can get a very nice image. It could be pretty rough for shooting a reception, unless the reception is held in a well lit facility. The HD10U would generally be a poor choice for weddings. Try putting sunglasses in front of the lens of a run of the mill consumer camcorder, shoot some footage in your living room (at night) with just a couple lights on, and you'll have some idea what to expect.

March 4th, 2006, 08:47 PM	#20
Tom Roper Trustee Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Denver, Colorado Posts: 1,891	The GR-HD1 low light footage while dark, at least manages not to be grainy.

March 5th, 2006, 01:28 AM	#21
Robert M Wright Inner Circle Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Minnesota (USA) Posts: 2,171	I've boosted brightness, in post, of footage shot with my HD10U under not even all that poor lighting, and saw much more grain (and horrid banding) then I care for (unacceptable, at least to me). Leaving it dark, is well, just dark (not acceptable either, again at least to me).