720p/1080i tvs for playback at DVinfo.net

Betsy Moore · September 15th, 2004, 03:38 PM

While a lot of us are in limbo wondering if we're going to hang on to our JVC 720ps or switch to Sony's 1080i, are there any safe HDTVs we can buy in the meantime, sets that can play both 1080i and 720p in their native resolutions without upconverting or downconverting or anything else? I know they've just come out with one tv that plays 1080p--but it's 21,000 dollars.

Heath McKnight · September 15th, 2004, 09:35 PM

I have a Samsung that can, but I plugged it in and it was a mess on TV, so I switched to All to 1080i for the picture. I need to figure out how to switch it to 720p.

Keep your HD10 or HD1. It won't hurt you as much as selling it at a loss to buy a new camera that no one is certain about. Remember how a lot of us didn't know the JVC wasn't fully manual?

hwm

Leonard Richardson · September 23rd, 2004, 06:46 PM

HI

Thought you would like to read this

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/article/ds15637.html

Len

Steve Crisdale · September 24th, 2004, 02:25 AM

I've had a heap of trouble getting my Panasonic 76cm HDTV to play the HD10u stream at anything above 480p....

Finally gave up and decided to get a Sharp Aquos 83cm LCD HDTV. To be sure I took various media with short m2t/mpg clips to the supplier to test.

To say that I was blown away is an understatement!!! Even the sales dude (who was originally 'coolish' because of the myths regarding the HD1/10) was taken aback.

The Aquos specs actually state the resolution of the screen, which is something worth knowing when purchasing a HDTV for viewing any HD video.....most CRT/Plasma specs avoid mentioning resolution because they're really HD 'ready' - not true HD. Pricing is also now at the level WS CRT HD ready sets were about 2.5 years ago.

If you can afford a Sharp Aquos, I'd recommend getting hold of one!!!!

BTW the HD10 video was delivered to screen via a Roku HD1000 - so these media players do work with HDV MPEG2!

Steve Crisdale · September 24th, 2004, 02:40 AM

<<<-- Originally posted by Leonard Richardson : HI

Thought you would like to read this

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/article/ds15637.html

Len -->>>

Makes the Aussie experience of HDTV, with most Capital cities now providing at least 2/3 HD FTA channels, seem luxurious!!

Betsy Moore · September 24th, 2004, 01:04 PM

Hi Steve, so the Sharp Aquos can play both 1080i and 720p?

Steve Crisdale · September 24th, 2004, 06:13 PM

<<<-- Originally posted by Betsy Moore : Hi Steve, so the Sharp Aquos can play both 1080i and 720p? -->>>

Here's some specs on the 32" model (bottom speakers), which is IMO, a good compromise on size-price-resolution.

Specifications

Type 81.3 cm (32") LCD Colour Television Panel
Supports 576p, 720p & 1080i DTV

81.3 cm (32") Diagonal,
Wide screen (1366 x 768 x 3)
Advanced Super View & Black TFT LCD
Brightness 450 cd/m2
Contrast 800 : 1
Viewing Angle H: 170°, V:170°
Colour System PAL/SECAM/NTSC

Receiving System PAL-B/G/D/K,I,SECAM-B/G,D/K,NTSC
Tuner VHF/UHF 44.25-863.25 Mhz
CATV Hyperband, S1-S41 ch
Preset Channel 99 channel , Auto preset
Stereo System NICAM / A2
Audio Output 20W (10W + 10W)
Surround System Dolby Virtual
Other Functions Picture & Picture / Picture & Text
Teletext circuit
Optical Picture control
W.S.S. (Wide Screen Signalling)
Colour Management System
Sleep Timer

Terminals
Input 1 : Composite / Component
Input 2 : Composite / S-Video
Input 3 : Composite / Component
Input 4 : Composite / S-Video
PC Input : DVI-I input and Audio (3.5 mm)
RS232C
Power Supply AC 220-240V 50/60Hz
Included Accessories Remote control, AAA batteries, operation manual, system cable, cable clamp, ac cord X2, vertical stand for AVC.
Dimensions Display Including stand & speakers:
795 x 638 x 307 mm
Excluding stand
795 x 577 x 90 mm
Dimensions AVC System 430 x 95 x 303 mm
Weight
Display
AVC System
21.0 Kg
7.0 Kg

As you can see from the specs, the Aquos will more than handle 720p resolution. If you want a HDTV with actual 1920x1080 resolution you'll be paying really big bucks...so a little downrez may be worth living with!!!

Steve Crisdale · October 6th, 2004, 08:22 PM

Finally got my Sharp Aquos......HOORAY!!!

Plugged my laptop in using DVI connector and played back all my HD content, including samples downloaded from forum contributors.

Flamin' Awesome!!!!!

Some observations:

HD10 HD video is at least equal to FTA HD 1080i broadcast.
On the Aquos the chroma noise issue isn't even as evident as on any of my 17" PC WS LCD displays. In fact; some FTA HD broadcasts exhibit worse chrome noise, and one would assume they would have been shot on Cinealta or Varicam!!!

The HD10 colour (when shot using ND/Polarizer) is tangibly more natural than FTA HD which appears to carry more saturation.

The Sony FX1 HD sample clip is indistinguishable from HD10 footage.

Even if I purchase the Sony FX1, there's no way - after seeing how good the HD10 looks on a quality HD monitor - that I'll be 'flogging off' my HD10.

September 15th, 2004, 03:38 PM	#1
Betsy Moore Major Player Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 444	720p/1080i tvs for playback While a lot of us are in limbo wondering if we're going to hang on to our JVC 720ps or switch to Sony's 1080i, are there any safe HDTVs we can buy in the meantime, sets that can play both 1080i and 720p in their native resolutions without upconverting or downconverting or anything else? I know they've just come out with one tv that plays 1080p--but it's 21,000 dollars.

September 15th, 2004, 09:35 PM	#2
Heath McKnight MPS Digital Studios Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Palm Beach County, Florida Posts: 8,531	I have a Samsung that can, but I plugged it in and it was a mess on TV, so I switched to All to 1080i for the picture. I need to figure out how to switch it to 720p. Keep your HD10 or HD1. It won't hurt you as much as selling it at a loss to buy a new camera that no one is certain about. Remember how a lot of us didn't know the JVC wasn't fully manual? hwm __________________ My Final Cut Pro X blog

September 23rd, 2004, 06:46 PM	#3
Leonard Richardson Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Charleston SC Posts: 37	How Good is 720p HI Thought you would like to read this http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/article/ds15637.html Len

September 24th, 2004, 02:25 AM	#4
Steve Crisdale Major Player Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Katoomba NSW Australia Posts: 635	Re: How Good is 720p I've had a heap of trouble getting my Panasonic 76cm HDTV to play the HD10u stream at anything above 480p.... Finally gave up and decided to get a Sharp Aquos 83cm LCD HDTV. To be sure I took various media with short m2t/mpg clips to the supplier to test. To say that I was blown away is an understatement!!! Even the sales dude (who was originally 'coolish' because of the myths regarding the HD1/10) was taken aback. The Aquos specs actually state the resolution of the screen, which is something worth knowing when purchasing a HDTV for viewing any HD video.....most CRT/Plasma specs avoid mentioning resolution because they're really HD 'ready' - not true HD. Pricing is also now at the level WS CRT HD ready sets were about 2.5 years ago. If you can afford a Sharp Aquos, I'd recommend getting hold of one!!!! BTW the HD10 video was delivered to screen via a Roku HD1000 - so these media players do work with HDV MPEG2!

September 24th, 2004, 02:40 AM	#5
Steve Crisdale Major Player Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Katoomba NSW Australia Posts: 635	Re: How Good is 720p <<<-- Originally posted by Leonard Richardson : HI Thought you would like to read this http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/article/ds15637.html Len -->>> Makes the Aussie experience of HDTV, with most Capital cities now providing at least 2/3 HD FTA channels, seem luxurious!!

September 24th, 2004, 01:04 PM	#6
Betsy Moore Major Player Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 444	Hi Steve, so the Sharp Aquos can play both 1080i and 720p?

September 24th, 2004, 06:13 PM	#7
Steve Crisdale Major Player Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Katoomba NSW Australia Posts: 635	<<<-- Originally posted by Betsy Moore : Hi Steve, so the Sharp Aquos can play both 1080i and 720p? -->>> Here's some specs on the 32" model (bottom speakers), which is IMO, a good compromise on size-price-resolution. Specifications Type 81.3 cm (32") LCD Colour Television Panel Supports 576p, 720p & 1080i DTV 81.3 cm (32") Diagonal, Wide screen (1366 x 768 x 3) Advanced Super View & Black TFT LCD Brightness 450 cd/m2 Contrast 800 : 1 Viewing Angle H: 170°, V:170° Colour System PAL/SECAM/NTSC Receiving System PAL-B/G/D/K,I,SECAM-B/G,D/K,NTSC Tuner VHF/UHF 44.25-863.25 Mhz CATV Hyperband, S1-S41 ch Preset Channel 99 channel , Auto preset Stereo System NICAM / A2 Audio Output 20W (10W + 10W) Surround System Dolby Virtual Other Functions Picture & Picture / Picture & Text Teletext circuit Optical Picture control W.S.S. (Wide Screen Signalling) Colour Management System Sleep Timer Terminals Input 1 : Composite / Component Input 2 : Composite / S-Video Input 3 : Composite / Component Input 4 : Composite / S-Video PC Input : DVI-I input and Audio (3.5 mm) RS232C Power Supply AC 220-240V 50/60Hz Included Accessories Remote control, AAA batteries, operation manual, system cable, cable clamp, ac cord X2, vertical stand for AVC. Dimensions Display Including stand & speakers: 795 x 638 x 307 mm Excluding stand 795 x 577 x 90 mm Dimensions AVC System 430 x 95 x 303 mm Weight Display AVC System 21.0 Kg 7.0 Kg As you can see from the specs, the Aquos will more than handle 720p resolution. If you want a HDTV with actual 1920x1080 resolution you'll be paying really big bucks...so a little downrez may be worth living with!!!

October 6th, 2004, 08:22 PM	#8
Steve Crisdale Major Player Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Katoomba NSW Australia Posts: 635	Finally got my Sharp Aquos......HOORAY!!! Plugged my laptop in using DVI connector and played back all my HD content, including samples downloaded from forum contributors. Flamin' Awesome!!!!! Some observations: HD10 HD video is at least equal to FTA HD 1080i broadcast. On the Aquos the chroma noise issue isn't even as evident as on any of my 17" PC WS LCD displays. In fact; some FTA HD broadcasts exhibit worse chrome noise, and one would assume they would have been shot on Cinealta or Varicam!!! The HD10 colour (when shot using ND/Polarizer) is tangibly more natural than FTA HD which appears to carry more saturation. The Sony FX1 HD sample clip is indistinguishable from HD10 footage. Even if I purchase the Sony FX1, there's no way - after seeing how good the HD10 looks on a quality HD monitor - that I'll be 'flogging off' my HD10.