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Gabor Lacza · April 29th, 2004, 10:36 PM

Anybody has any good recommendations for a good portable dat or mini disc for in use with the JVC....max $1K...
Gabor

Heath McKnight · April 30th, 2004, 01:54 PM

Do a search in DVInfo for DAT recommendations. You'll find TONS!

heath

Gabor Lacza · April 30th, 2004, 06:14 PM

Thanks Heath, I guess the best thing to do is to go with a Tascam DA-P1 dat recorder...one question though...Can I transfer from dat to pc or mac with a laptop ?? Or do I need a desktop ?
Gabor

Gabor Lacza · May 7th, 2004, 10:02 AM

I think it will be easier to go with the PORTADISC MDP500 professional MiniDisc recorder since it is easier to connect to a pc or laptop or mac....anybody used this recorder?? Any thoughts?
Thanks
Gabor

Stephen Schleicher · May 7th, 2004, 11:22 AM

You might want to check this article before buying.

http://emusician.com/ar/emusic_hhb_portadisc_mdp/

I was sold when I first the specs, and then was happy with the first part of the review, but the audio problems are not worth the money.

Cheers

Stephen Schleicher
www.mindspring.com/~schleicher

Gabor Lacza · May 7th, 2004, 12:25 PM

Well good points here....i am mainly would like to use as a double system for recording dialogues and location sound for films with the jvc hd10u...my only problem with the DAT is that the tapes are more expensive than mini disc plus i need to connect them somehow to a laptop....hmmmm
Gabor

Josef Crow · May 9th, 2004, 10:22 AM

i use the iRiver IHP-120 with core-sound Mic2496. two channel portable. the optical out on the mic2496 is accepted by optical in on the iRiver. transfers to computer via usb 2.0. $850 for the two.

Sharon Fraats · May 9th, 2004, 11:11 PM

iPod??

Ken Tanaka · May 9th, 2004, 11:34 PM

For the record, I have an HHb PortaDisk and have not observed the noise problems noted in that review. Granted, I am not an audiophile but I've not picked up the problem.

Re: iPod, I don't know of a way to record onto this device.

Heath McKnight · May 9th, 2004, 11:59 PM

I thought someone made an iMic to go into the iPod.

h

Ken Tanaka · May 10th, 2004, 12:06 AM

Ahh, it's not the iMic but the iTalk. But it doesn't look like a production audio solution.

Ben Buie · May 12th, 2004, 12:51 AM

Might want to check out the Fostex MR-8.

We have used it with the HD10 with great results. Perfect sound quality (uncompressed WAV), pro XLR inputs, no moving parts, USB connection right into a computer, etc.

Musician's Friend online has them for $300.00.

Get a mic preamp/mixer with this though . . . the Mic input is not very sensitive, you would get better input level controls with a Mic preamp/mixer for sure. Still, the Fostex MR-8 at $300 plus a good mic preamp/mixer for $100 is still only $400 total.

Having said that, after 1 week shooting double-system sound, we went back to single system and ran our boom mic setup directly into the HD10. So far the AGC hasn't been an issue, and it has saved us a TON of time (both in production and in post).

One more thing . . . the Azden SGM-2X has proven to be a great Mic. In case you don't already know, using a long shotgun mic indoors in a small room is a DISASTER (echo city baby). The Azden SGM-2X gives you the flexibility of using the long shotgun module outdoors and the short shotgun/omni module indoors, all for one relatively inexpensive price. Probably one of our best purchases.

Alex Raskin · May 12th, 2004, 01:45 AM

how come no-one suggests Marantz PMD-670.

sound is in the same category as HHB MiniDisk (minus moving parts and minidisks, and at $700 vs $1300 HHB.)

Heath McKnight · May 12th, 2004, 06:57 AM

Ben,

Great tip, you, too, Alex!

heath

Gabor Lacza · May 14th, 2004, 11:53 AM

Thanks for all the inputs from everybody.I might go for a Tascam DA-P1...I can get one off from ebay at good prices and I found a company who makes a DatPort which connect Dat to Laptop....I am 60% sure in this but still looking for the Marantz PMD-670 which was suggested by Alex...looks really good too and I can get a brand new for the price I would pay for a used dat...
Gabor

April 29th, 2004, 10:36 PM	#1
Gabor Lacza Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Budapest , Hungary Posts: 194	DAT or Mini Disc Anybody has any good recommendations for a good portable dat or mini disc for in use with the JVC....max $1K... Gabor

April 30th, 2004, 01:54 PM	#2
Heath McKnight MPS Digital Studios Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Palm Beach County, Florida Posts: 8,531	Do a search in DVInfo for DAT recommendations. You'll find TONS! heath __________________ My Final Cut Pro X blog

May 7th, 2004, 10:02 AM	#4
Gabor Lacza Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Budapest , Hungary Posts: 194	PORTADISC MDP500 professional MiniDisc recorder I think it will be easier to go with the PORTADISC MDP500 professional MiniDisc recorder since it is easier to connect to a pc or laptop or mac....anybody used this recorder?? Any thoughts? Thanks Gabor

May 7th, 2004, 11:22 AM	#5
Stephen Schleicher Regular Crew Join Date: May 2003 Location: Hays, KS Posts: 188	You might want to check this article before buying. http://emusician.com/ar/emusic_hhb_portadisc_mdp/ I was sold when I first the specs, and then was happy with the first part of the review, but the audio problems are not worth the money. Cheers Stephen Schleicher www.mindspring.com/~schleicher __________________ Stephen Schleicher www.stephenschleicher.com

May 9th, 2004, 11:34 PM	#9
Ken Tanaka Retired DV Info Net Almunus Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 6,943	For the record, I have an HHb PortaDisk and have not observed the noise problems noted in that review. Granted, I am not an audiophile but I've not picked up the problem. Re: iPod, I don't know of a way to record onto this device. __________________ Lady X Films: A lady with a boring wardrobe...and a global mission. Hey, you don't have enough stuff! Buy with confidence from our sponsors. Hand-picked as the best in the business...Really! See some of my work one frame at a time: www.KenTanaka.com

April 30th, 2004, 06:14 PM	#3
Gabor Lacza Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Budapest , Hungary Posts: 194	Thanks Heath, I guess the best thing to do is to go with a Tascam DA-P1 dat recorder...one question though...Can I transfer from dat to pc or mac with a laptop ?? Or do I need a desktop ? Gabor

May 7th, 2004, 12:25 PM	#6
Gabor Lacza Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Budapest , Hungary Posts: 194	Well good points here....i am mainly would like to use as a double system for recording dialogues and location sound for films with the jvc hd10u...my only problem with the DAT is that the tapes are more expensive than mini disc plus i need to connect them somehow to a laptop....hmmmm Gabor

May 9th, 2004, 10:22 AM	#7
Josef Crow Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: new york, ny Posts: 66	i use the iRiver IHP-120 with core-sound Mic2496. two channel portable. the optical out on the mic2496 is accepted by optical in on the iRiver. transfers to computer via usb 2.0. $850 for the two.

May 9th, 2004, 11:11 PM	#8
Sharon Fraats Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: chicago, ill Posts: 190	iPod??

May 9th, 2004, 11:59 PM	#10
Heath McKnight MPS Digital Studios Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Palm Beach County, Florida Posts: 8,531	I thought someone made an iMic to go into the iPod. h __________________ My Final Cut Pro X blog

May 10th, 2004, 12:06 AM	#11
Ken Tanaka Retired DV Info Net Almunus Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 6,943	Ahh, it's not the iMic but the iTalk. But it doesn't look like a production audio solution. __________________ Lady X Films: A lady with a boring wardrobe...and a global mission. Hey, you don't have enough stuff! Buy with confidence from our sponsors. Hand-picked as the best in the business...Really! See some of my work one frame at a time: www.KenTanaka.com

May 12th, 2004, 12:51 AM	#12
Ben Buie Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 184	Might want to check out the Fostex MR-8. We have used it with the HD10 with great results. Perfect sound quality (uncompressed WAV), pro XLR inputs, no moving parts, USB connection right into a computer, etc. Musician's Friend online has them for $300.00. Get a mic preamp/mixer with this though . . . the Mic input is not very sensitive, you would get better input level controls with a Mic preamp/mixer for sure. Still, the Fostex MR-8 at $300 plus a good mic preamp/mixer for $100 is still only $400 total. Having said that, after 1 week shooting double-system sound, we went back to single system and ran our boom mic setup directly into the HD10. So far the AGC hasn't been an issue, and it has saved us a TON of time (both in production and in post). One more thing . . . the Azden SGM-2X has proven to be a great Mic. In case you don't already know, using a long shotgun mic indoors in a small room is a DISASTER (echo city baby). The Azden SGM-2X gives you the flexibility of using the long shotgun module outdoors and the short shotgun/omni module indoors, all for one relatively inexpensive price. Probably one of our best purchases. __________________ Ben Buie, Producer "On Our Way Up" - Shot Completely in HDV http://www.onourwayup.com HD Articles and Reviews at HDSource! http://hdsource.highlydef.com

May 12th, 2004, 01:45 AM	#13
Alex Raskin Trustee Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,435	how come no-one suggests Marantz PMD-670. sound is in the same category as HHB MiniDisk (minus moving parts and minidisks, and at $700 vs $1300 HHB.)

May 12th, 2004, 06:57 AM	#14
Heath McKnight MPS Digital Studios Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Palm Beach County, Florida Posts: 8,531	Ben, Great tip, you, too, Alex! heath __________________ My Final Cut Pro X blog

May 14th, 2004, 11:53 AM	#15
Gabor Lacza Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Budapest , Hungary Posts: 194	Thanks for all the inputs from everybody.I might go for a Tascam DA-P1...I can get one off from ebay at good prices and I found a company who makes a DatPort which connect Dat to Laptop....I am 60% sure in this but still looking for the Marantz PMD-670 which was suggested by Alex...looks really good too and I can get a brand new for the price I would pay for a used dat... Gabor