Short HDV Film

Betsy Moore · March 19th, 2004, 07:30 PM

What were the lights in your arsenal? Very nice job:)

Heath McKnight · March 19th, 2004, 08:02 PM

Betsy,

What about your film?

heath

Frederic Lumiere · March 24th, 2004, 07:29 PM

If you are interested in downloading a 60MB clip in MPEG Transport Stream 720p go there:

http://www.lumieremedia.com/hotelroom/clips.htm

Kenn Christenson · March 25th, 2004, 11:00 AM

One small thing: I noticed, near the end of your HiDef clip, the woman's glass passes down through the lower right shot of the man. In the next shot, the woman still has the glass up to her mouth. Seems like an easy After Effects fix could do the trick, since the glass passes through a black area of the frame. Otherwise, I'm very impressed by what I've seen in your short, great lighting and compositions.

Betsy Moore · March 25th, 2004, 12:48 PM

Frederic, for some reason when I download the larger version it still plays in a very small window. I'm on my work computer (the only access I have to high speed internet)--is there a setting I can change on my PC to display it larger? When I right click on the window it doesn't give me any options. Is this my computer's way of telling me this is as big a window as I can handle?

Frederic Lumiere · March 25th, 2004, 01:01 PM

Betsy,

What are you playing the m2t with? VLC Player?

Betsy Moore · March 25th, 2004, 01:11 PM

Not sure and afraid to ask the IT guy (as this is definitely non-work related, although I do work at a talent agency). Do you know where I should look to find out?

Frederic Lumiere · March 25th, 2004, 01:34 PM

Betsy,

Go ahead and download the VLC player from here:

http://www.videolan.org/vlc/

Open the m2t file from the player.

Ken Hodson · March 25th, 2004, 04:06 PM

It seems very "soft" to me. Its a nice look but doesn't seem so HD. More so with the man, the woman looks sharper .
Did you apply any blurs or do multiple renderings?
Ken

Frederic Lumiere · March 25th, 2004, 05:24 PM

Ken,

No filters. Just some color correction and some more saturation on the woman.

I like the look as well, much more filmlike than some other HD stuff I've seen.

Betsy Moore · March 25th, 2004, 07:26 PM

Saw the large version, thanks for the help with the download. Looks great. You said you lit it pretty bright and then darkened it. Were you able to eliminate most of the "noise" that comes from low lighting that way?

Frederic Lumiere · March 25th, 2004, 11:10 PM

Betsy,

Actually we lit it to enhance contrast and tried to keep the dark areas as dark as possible.

I did darken it even more in color correction.

Beleive me, there is a lot of noise there. Actually, the seats aren't green, beleive it or not! But they sure seem green on the screen. I didn't have a problem with it, green seemed OK, even though it was a result of chroma noise.

The impressive part for me were the reds. Take a look at his tie, you would never get this quality of definition in SD. And, her blouse, same there. Reds do great in HD. In SD we learned to stay away from reds but not in HD. Even HDV.

F

Mark Jervis · March 26th, 2004, 08:15 AM

Just as a test I ran your footage through the Cineform Chroma plugin and it removed almost all of the noise. If you would like I will post some stills. Have you tried using that plugin or an equivalent plugin for mac?

Frederic Lumiere · March 26th, 2004, 09:26 AM

Mark,

No I haven't. I'm really interested in seeing the results. Stills and m2t if possible.

Thanks!

Mark Jervis · March 26th, 2004, 10:06 AM

I have posted 2 sets of stills at http://www.viproductions.tv/hd10/hd10shots.htm
I have converted the entire clip to m2t but 60Mb is a large file to upload to my site at this time. If you would like I could chop it in half and upload that.

March 19th, 2004, 08:02 PM	#17
Heath McKnight MPS Digital Studios Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Palm Beach County, Florida Posts: 8,531	Betsy, What about your film? heath __________________ My Final Cut Pro X blog

March 24th, 2004, 07:29 PM	#18
Frederic Lumiere Wrangler Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Point Pleasant, NJ Posts: 437	Link to m2t clip If you are interested in downloading a 60MB clip in MPEG Transport Stream 720p go there: http://www.lumieremedia.com/hotelroom/clips.htm

March 25th, 2004, 04:06 PM	#24
Ken Hodson Trustee Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Vancouver BC Canada Posts: 1,315	It seems very "soft" to me. Its a nice look but doesn't seem so HD. More so with the man, the woman looks sharper . Did you apply any blurs or do multiple renderings? Ken __________________ Damnit Jim, I'm a film maker not a sysytems tech.

March 19th, 2004, 07:30 PM	#16
Betsy Moore Major Player Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 444	What were the lights in your arsenal? Very nice job:)

March 25th, 2004, 11:00 AM	#19
Kenn Christenson Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Medford Oregon Posts: 152	One small thing: I noticed, near the end of your HiDef clip, the woman's glass passes down through the lower right shot of the man. In the next shot, the woman still has the glass up to her mouth. Seems like an easy After Effects fix could do the trick, since the glass passes through a black area of the frame. Otherwise, I'm very impressed by what I've seen in your short, great lighting and compositions.

March 25th, 2004, 12:48 PM	#20
Betsy Moore Major Player Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 444	Frederic, for some reason when I download the larger version it still plays in a very small window. I'm on my work computer (the only access I have to high speed internet)--is there a setting I can change on my PC to display it larger? When I right click on the window it doesn't give me any options. Is this my computer's way of telling me this is as big a window as I can handle?

March 25th, 2004, 01:01 PM	#21
Frederic Lumiere Wrangler Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Point Pleasant, NJ Posts: 437	Betsy, What are you playing the m2t with? VLC Player?

March 25th, 2004, 01:11 PM	#22
Betsy Moore Major Player Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 444	Not sure and afraid to ask the IT guy (as this is definitely non-work related, although I do work at a talent agency). Do you know where I should look to find out?

March 25th, 2004, 01:34 PM	#23
Frederic Lumiere Wrangler Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Point Pleasant, NJ Posts: 437	Betsy, Go ahead and download the VLC player from here: http://www.videolan.org/vlc/ Open the m2t file from the player.

March 25th, 2004, 05:24 PM	#25
Frederic Lumiere Wrangler Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Point Pleasant, NJ Posts: 437	Ken, No filters. Just some color correction and some more saturation on the woman. I like the look as well, much more filmlike than some other HD stuff I've seen.

March 25th, 2004, 07:26 PM	#26
Betsy Moore Major Player Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 444	Saw the large version, thanks for the help with the download. Looks great. You said you lit it pretty bright and then darkened it. Were you able to eliminate most of the "noise" that comes from low lighting that way?

March 25th, 2004, 11:10 PM	#27
Frederic Lumiere Wrangler Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Point Pleasant, NJ Posts: 437	Betsy, Actually we lit it to enhance contrast and tried to keep the dark areas as dark as possible. I did darken it even more in color correction. Beleive me, there is a lot of noise there. Actually, the seats aren't green, beleive it or not! But they sure seem green on the screen. I didn't have a problem with it, green seemed OK, even though it was a result of chroma noise. The impressive part for me were the reds. Take a look at his tie, you would never get this quality of definition in SD. And, her blouse, same there. Reds do great in HD. In SD we learned to stay away from reds but not in HD. Even HDV. F

March 26th, 2004, 08:15 AM	#28
Mark Jervis Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Savannah, GA Posts: 66	Just as a test I ran your footage through the Cineform Chroma plugin and it removed almost all of the noise. If you would like I will post some stills. Have you tried using that plugin or an equivalent plugin for mac?

March 26th, 2004, 09:26 AM	#29
Frederic Lumiere Wrangler Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Point Pleasant, NJ Posts: 437	Mark, No I haven't. I'm really interested in seeing the results. Stills and m2t if possible. Thanks!

March 26th, 2004, 10:06 AM	#30
Mark Jervis Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Savannah, GA Posts: 66	I have posted 2 sets of stills at http://www.viproductions.tv/hd10/hd10shots.htm I have converted the entire clip to m2t but 60Mb is a large file to upload to my site at this time. If you would like I could chop it in half and upload that.