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Old February 2nd, 2004, 10:21 AM   #1
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HDV is on the air

I own the HD10, and have used it recently on a promo I produced for the TV station I work at in Tampa FL.
Shot in HD, down converted to uncompressed QuickTime in After Effects, edited in Uncompressed Digital on the Affinity Atmosphere.

The results were amazing! Looked very much like any other news image spot shot on film. The format allowed me to do significant amount of composting and color correction.

Here's something for all the people who "dis" this cam, I work with shooters who are at the top of the news game. Every one of them drooled over my camera. The images coming from this are nothing like the ones coming from our top of the line 3CCD Beta SX cameras.
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Old February 2nd, 2004, 10:39 AM   #2
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Cool man! I know it's a lot to ask, but can we drool over the promo you mention? How about a post?? Pretty please!

I'm sure Chris Hurd would post it...we'll use it to shutup all the negative remarks regarding the HD10u.

Thanks!! Congrads on your success too!

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Old February 2nd, 2004, 01:01 PM   #3
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I would love to show it off, I am in the process of getting approval from my station to do just that.
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Old February 2nd, 2004, 01:06 PM   #4
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Bob,

Thanks for the positive post! I look forward to viewing you're footage.

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Old February 2nd, 2004, 04:05 PM   #5
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Bob,

What station in Tampa? I work at WPTV in West Palm Beach, and our sister station is the ABC in Tampa.

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Old February 2nd, 2004, 05:50 PM   #6
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I am the Senior Promotion Producer for Scripps WFTS ABC ACTION NEWS.... TAKING ACTION FOR YOU!

Before that ... WDTN, Dayton, OH "Your Weather Station"
Before that ... WRIC, Richmond, VA "Making A Difference"
Before that... KEYT, Santa Barbara, CA "Your Key to Breaking News."

(can you tell I'm a promo guy? :))

I noticed that you worked in state. What's your line?
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Old February 2nd, 2004, 05:55 PM   #7
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In NH at WMUR-TV I did promos...the line:

"No One Knows New Hampshire Like We Do."

www.wmur.com
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Old February 2nd, 2004, 08:02 PM   #8
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We're getting off topic :-) but I do promos currently. We work for the same company, Bob! Scripps!

I've pitched an idea to do a spot for my station in HDV, but they're still iffy. I'll probably do it at home.

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Old February 3rd, 2004, 07:27 AM   #9
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I'm very lucky here, the let me try new things all the time.
Did you work under Bob Jordan? I know he was a hard nosed kid of guy, but he was news director here when I came on board, and I really liked him.
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Old February 3rd, 2004, 11:43 AM   #10
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I'll email you privately.

What did you cut on with the HD10?

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Old February 3rd, 2004, 12:11 PM   #11
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My production workflow went like this.

1. Shoot master footage at station.
2. Head home and digitize footage with HD capture utility.
3. Trim shots in MPEG Edit Studio.
4. Convert video steam to uncompressed AVI, convert audio to WAV
5. Create Graphics in Adobe Illustrator / Photoshop
6. Composite graphics over uncompressed clips in After Effects
7. Render converted clips to720x486 "letter boxed" to uncompressed quicktime.
8. burn these files to CD Rom
9. Return to station to edit the clips together in Accom Affinity (i mistakenly said Atmosphere before)
10. Suiten audio in Pro-Tools
11. Send to air.

Let you Creative services director know what we;ve done here in Tampa, and the positive results we're having.
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Old February 3rd, 2004, 12:24 PM   #12
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What about chroma noise? It's bad on a short film I did.

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Old February 3rd, 2004, 12:32 PM   #13
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I had absolutley no problems. The key may have been the lighting. I underexposed just a hair and lit with a nice soft riffa light from an almost head on direction. I used no fill, and a slight amber tinted backlight. I find the more I shoot with this, that if you treat it like a film camera rather than a video camera, youre results will be better. I even did some substatial color correction to the clip with no trouble at all.
I hoping to post the "beore and after" clips to show how a litle color correction can go a long way.
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Old February 3rd, 2004, 01:28 PM   #14
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I am considering purchasing a JY-Hd10 for our production department. We currently use Sony Beta SX cameras, and the JY will be a supplemental camera. I've seen video shot with his camera, and it was very impressive.
I'm still unclear on how to capture the video into our editing systems. I understand it isn't yet possible on a Mac based editor. What about pc-based AVID Media Composers? We can import uncompressed video.
And what exactly is a "HD capture utility?"
Does the video come through on a firewire connection?
Is there a particular editing format anyone can recommend?
How about shooting in HD, but digitizing the video in DV?

I've been reading this forum for months, and I'm still confused.

BTW, JVC is finally releasing a player/recorder for this camera's HD tapes. It should be out within a few months, if not already.
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Old February 3rd, 2004, 01:39 PM   #15
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The HD Capture utility is a little software program that allows you to digitize the HD MPEG footage from your camera (firewire link) into your hard drive. While the mechanics of this step are similar to DV capture, the actual process is very different.

You can also down convert on the fly to NTSC directly into your avid via the analog outputs. However if you can convert the digitized clips into quicklime or AVID files, you can use them on any platform with an effects compositor like after effects. Premiere will take the clips and re-size them for NTSC, I do not now about final cut pro.
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