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Glenn Gipson · October 17th, 2003, 03:51 PM

Does anyone know when the GR-PD1 is coming out?

Kevin A. Sturges · October 17th, 2003, 08:33 PM

What is that? Is it a new HD cam??

Glenn Gipson · October 18th, 2003, 11:56 AM

No, it's just SD.

Barry Green · October 18th, 2003, 01:44 PM

It's a PAL version of the HD1, without the HD mode.

Jon Kamps · October 24th, 2003, 06:23 PM

whats the point of the cam if it doesn't have HD? they'd have to lower the price a ton.

Barry Green · October 24th, 2003, 10:14 PM

That is the question. But consider that even without HD, it will be the only standard-def camera that can shoot full-rate progressive scan (720x576 at 50fps) with a native 16:9 chip. So it may not be HD, but it will still be unique.

Ken Hodson · October 25th, 2003, 07:01 PM

Ya I think all us "hard cores" are anxious to see how this cam pans out. Could be interesting.
Ken

David Warrilow · October 29th, 2003, 05:34 PM

Hi,

well the Gr-pd1 is now available in Australia - at a list price of $6,000 (AUS) which is about $4200 US. Are they serious?

With what amounts to a single chip SD cam with limited manual control, no HD functionality and 19mb/s MPEG2 encoding - for a grand more than a new 3-chip pdx-10?!! ($5,000 AUS).

JVC has removed any HD functionality and are still asking the same money for the camera. Do they expect to sell even one of these units?

Am I right in assuming that the difference between the HD1 and the pd1 - is SOFTWARE? I mean, they didn't re-engineer the cam to be an SD camera - they changed some software setting in eeprom to eliminate the HD functionality right? So with a firmware update, the pd1 could be made to run HD rez at PAL 25p/50i? I know this is NEVER going to happen but just let me fantasize for a second...

Here in Oz we're an odd case as we have pal AND we have HD - (where as Europe have completely dropped the ball), but we're so damn small a market that we're not worth making a 'Oz-HD' version of this camera. And I guess that will be the case for all the other manufacturers of HDV gear in the future. No PAL HDV - No 25p/50i HDV.

I guess the only thing to reccommend the pd1 is the 16:9 chip (which is irrelevant if you're laying out enough money for a pdx-10) and the nice lens (I assume THAT'S still the same on the camera) There's the progressive scan of course , but I have an $1500 JVC cam that does that already - so big phooey. But at 6K for a 1-chip SD Cam. Who are JVC kidding?

DW.

October 17th, 2003, 03:51 PM	#1
Glenn Gipson Major Player Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Plainfield, New Jersey Posts: 927	Gr-pd1 Does anyone know when the GR-PD1 is coming out?

October 25th, 2003, 07:01 PM	#7
Ken Hodson Trustee Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Vancouver BC Canada Posts: 1,315	Ya I think all us "hard cores" are anxious to see how this cam pans out. Could be interesting. Ken __________________ Damnit Jim, I'm a film maker not a sysytems tech.

October 17th, 2003, 08:33 PM	#2
Kevin A. Sturges Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Milwaukee, WI Posts: 167	What is that? Is it a new HD cam??

October 18th, 2003, 11:56 AM	#3
Glenn Gipson Major Player Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Plainfield, New Jersey Posts: 927	No, it's just SD.

October 18th, 2003, 01:44 PM	#4
Barry Green Barry Wan Kenobi Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: North Carolina Posts: 3,863	It's a PAL version of the HD1, without the HD mode.

October 24th, 2003, 06:23 PM	#5
Jon Kamps Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 56	whats the point of the cam if it doesn't have HD? they'd have to lower the price a ton.

October 24th, 2003, 10:14 PM	#6
Barry Green Barry Wan Kenobi Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: North Carolina Posts: 3,863	That is the question. But consider that even without HD, it will be the only standard-def camera that can shoot full-rate progressive scan (720x576 at 50fps) with a native 16:9 chip. So it may not be HD, but it will still be unique.

October 29th, 2003, 05:34 PM	#8
David Warrilow Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 106	Hi, well the Gr-pd1 is now available in Australia - at a list price of $6,000 (AUS) which is about $4200 US. Are they serious? With what amounts to a single chip SD cam with limited manual control, no HD functionality and 19mb/s MPEG2 encoding - for a grand more than a new 3-chip pdx-10?!! ($5,000 AUS). JVC has removed any HD functionality and are still asking the same money for the camera. Do they expect to sell even one of these units? Am I right in assuming that the difference between the HD1 and the pd1 - is SOFTWARE? I mean, they didn't re-engineer the cam to be an SD camera - they changed some software setting in eeprom to eliminate the HD functionality right? So with a firmware update, the pd1 could be made to run HD rez at PAL 25p/50i? I know this is NEVER going to happen but just let me fantasize for a second... Here in Oz we're an odd case as we have pal AND we have HD - (where as Europe have completely dropped the ball), but we're so damn small a market that we're not worth making a 'Oz-HD' version of this camera. And I guess that will be the case for all the other manufacturers of HDV gear in the future. No PAL HDV - No 25p/50i HDV. I guess the only thing to reccommend the pd1 is the 16:9 chip (which is irrelevant if you're laying out enough money for a pdx-10) and the nice lens (I assume THAT'S still the same on the camera) There's the progressive scan of course , but I have an $1500 JVC cam that does that already - so big phooey. But at 6K for a 1-chip SD Cam. Who are JVC kidding? DW.