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Hritik Roshan · October 11th, 2003, 11:38 AM

Hi Guys,
I just purchased my JVC HD10U and I am astounded by the picture quality...I edit in Premiere 6.5 but somehow I cannot seem to capture footage from the camera onto premiere 6.5, the capture window just shows blank but the footage plays on the camera (this is in HD Mode)
I also have Pinnacle Studio 8 and its the same thing with that program too, I try to capture HD footage and the window just shows blank. I am editing on a PC and for some reason my camera package did not include the JVC Editing CD Rom.
Please help!!!!! Do I need to purchase Aspect HD in order to see captured footage?? I am using a flatscreen Monitor which is not HD.
Please help.
Thanks.

Hritik

David Newman · October 11th, 2003, 11:56 AM

Adobe Premiere has no native support for MPEG editing. It will not support a HDV camera like the HD10 without tools like CineForm's Aspect HD.

You can convert M2T files to HUFFYUV (avg. 25MBytes/s) around or uncompressed RGB (80MBytes/s) and edit whole in Premiere although not in real-time. There are discussions on the forum on how to do this.

Hritik Roshan · October 11th, 2003, 12:13 PM

Hi David,
Thanks for the info, I really appreicate it...I guess buying Aspect HD is my next step!!!
Thanks once again

Matthew Phillips · October 12th, 2003, 09:24 PM

Hritik Roshan,

Another option besides running out and purchasing Aspect HD, the new version of adobe's Premeire, Premeire Pro, supports MPEG2 format and you could do frame accurate editing. Just a thought. It could be cheaper than buying Aspect HD. Since you already have Premier 6.5 all you need to buy is the update for about $200. Hope this helps

Matt

Alex Raskin · October 12th, 2003, 10:07 PM

Matt is right.

I have Premiere Pro, and I was able to do the following:

- Simply rename .m2t file extensions into .mpg and import into PPro. It will show the video, but apparently it only gets I-frames so the video plays as if it was shot at 10fps. May be good for quick view of the m2t file content.

- Good way: download HDTVtoMPEG2 (free utility) and convert m2t files into actual mpg's. Then import these mpg's into Premiere Pro. I do not get real-time playback, but apparently all frames are there.

- Best way: convert mpg to AVIs using DVD2AVI (free download) utility. If you use HUFFYUV lossless codec, file size is 2gb per minute vs. 6Gb for Uncompressed AVIs.

On my system (P4 2.4Ghz, 1G memory) PPro plays HUFFYUV sources in real time, no problem.

David Newman · October 13th, 2003, 09:35 AM

This is all true. Aspect HD is for those want more than one stream video on frame accurate editing. People with purchase Aspect HD for the same reason people add Canopus or Matrox DV accelerators to their systems. It is a tool for increased productivity through real-time multi-stream editing, simplified work flow, compatibility with tools like After Effects and more.

Hritik Roshan · October 13th, 2003, 09:46 AM

Hey there,
Where can I download the free utility HDTVtoMPEG2 and the DVD2AVI.
Also, by doing these conversions do you lose any picture quality?
Once Premiere Pro is installed will it see the video once I attempt to capture it from my camcorder to Premiere Pro via Firewire?
Where can I get the HUFFYUV lossless codec? Is it available for download?
Thanks for your help guys.

Hritik

Alex Raskin · October 13th, 2003, 09:55 AM

Hritik, PPro does NOT have capability to capture HD files from HD cam directly at this time - that's why we have to jump through the loops of multiple file convertions just to get the footage into PPro for editing.

But before the conversions you just use the cam's bundled HD capture utility to, well, capture your footage onto your hard drive before conversions.

The software you mentioned is available for free download on the Web, just search for it.

Either invest your time and do that, or invest $1200 and buy Aspect HD - however Aspect is not available for Premiere Pro at this time, as I heard.

David Newman · October 13th, 2003, 09:59 AM

That is correct. Aspect HD is still for Premiere 6.5 while we complete to port to Premiere Pro. The Premiere Pro version of Aspect HD will be sent out free to anyone who has purchased the 6.5 version.

Hritik Roshan · October 13th, 2003, 11:11 AM

Thanks Alex,
Just my luck that I purchased my camcorder at a "not so reputable" place to save money and they forgot to include the bundled NLE MPEG-2 Editing software thats supposed to come with the camera, after numerous phonecalls I still cant get them to respond.
What is the name of the actual software that comes with it?, i'll try to find in on the web.
Thanks for all your help Alex.

Hritik

Alex Raskin · October 13th, 2003, 11:47 AM

You are welcome...

The Software seems to bear PIXELA Corp label, if this helps.

Hritik Roshan · October 13th, 2003, 02:52 PM

I just ordered the software from the JVC Dealership...
Thanks for all your help guys. It is much appreciated.

Steve Mullen · October 13th, 2003, 09:45 PM

<<<-- Originally posted by Hritik Roshan : Thanks Alex,
Just my luck that I purchased my camcorder at a "not so reputable" place to save money and they forgot to include the bundled NLE MPEG-2 Editing software thats supposed to come with the camera. Hritik -->>>

Something's wrong here. The CDROM is packed IN the JVC box at the factory. There was no way the dealer had to INCLUDE it. Hence, no way they FORGOT.

Perhaps they sold it and got it back w/o the CDROM.

Hritik Roshan · October 14th, 2003, 04:16 PM

maybe so...
but I just bit the bullet and paid $150.00 to JVC to mail me the CD Rom...
JVC told me that there was no way they could send it to me for free and Broadway Photo were not very helpful in coming to a conclusion on this. Oh well...

Lisa Lee · October 16th, 2003, 04:35 AM

you bought from broadway photo?? I respect you....very brave, gambling man. Kind of like playing black jack, sooner or later you're going to bust.

October 11th, 2003, 11:38 AM	#1
Hritik Roshan New Boot Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 11	Just bought my HD10U, Need help!!!! Hi Guys, I just purchased my JVC HD10U and I am astounded by the picture quality...I edit in Premiere 6.5 but somehow I cannot seem to capture footage from the camera onto premiere 6.5, the capture window just shows blank but the footage plays on the camera (this is in HD Mode) I also have Pinnacle Studio 8 and its the same thing with that program too, I try to capture HD footage and the window just shows blank. I am editing on a PC and for some reason my camera package did not include the JVC Editing CD Rom. Please help!!!!! Do I need to purchase Aspect HD in order to see captured footage?? I am using a flatscreen Monitor which is not HD. Please help. Thanks. Hritik

October 11th, 2003, 12:13 PM	#3
Hritik Roshan New Boot Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 11	Hi david Hi David, Thanks for the info, I really appreicate it...I guess buying Aspect HD is my next step!!! Thanks once again

October 13th, 2003, 09:46 AM	#7
Hritik Roshan New Boot Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 11	Questions Hey there, Where can I download the free utility HDTVtoMPEG2 and the DVD2AVI. Also, by doing these conversions do you lose any picture quality? Once Premiere Pro is installed will it see the video once I attempt to capture it from my camcorder to Premiere Pro via Firewire? Where can I get the HUFFYUV lossless codec? Is it available for download? Thanks for your help guys. Hritik

October 13th, 2003, 11:11 AM	#10
Hritik Roshan New Boot Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 11	hi Thanks Alex, Just my luck that I purchased my camcorder at a "not so reputable" place to save money and they forgot to include the bundled NLE MPEG-2 Editing software thats supposed to come with the camera, after numerous phonecalls I still cant get them to respond. What is the name of the actual software that comes with it?, i'll try to find in on the web. Thanks for all your help Alex. Hritik

October 13th, 2003, 09:45 PM	#13
Steve Mullen HDV Cinema Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 4,007	Re: hi <<<-- Originally posted by Hritik Roshan : Thanks Alex, Just my luck that I purchased my camcorder at a "not so reputable" place to save money and they forgot to include the bundled NLE MPEG-2 Editing software thats supposed to come with the camera. Hritik -->>> Something's wrong here. The CDROM is packed IN the JVC box at the factory. There was no way the dealer had to INCLUDE it. Hence, no way they FORGOT. Perhaps they sold it and got it back w/o the CDROM. __________________ Switcher's Quick Guide to the Avid Media Composer >>> http://home.mindspring.com/~d-v-c

October 11th, 2003, 11:56 AM	#2
David Newman CTO, CineForm Inc. Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Cardiff-by-the-Sea, California Posts: 8,095	Adobe Premiere has no native support for MPEG editing. It will not support a HDV camera like the HD10 without tools like CineForm's Aspect HD. You can convert M2T files to HUFFYUV (avg. 25MBytes/s) around or uncompressed RGB (80MBytes/s) and edit whole in Premiere although not in real-time. There are discussions on the forum on how to do this.

October 12th, 2003, 09:24 PM	#4
Matthew Phillips New Boot Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Dallas, Texas, USA Posts: 14	Hritik Roshan, Another option besides running out and purchasing Aspect HD, the new version of adobe's Premeire, Premeire Pro, supports MPEG2 format and you could do frame accurate editing. Just a thought. It could be cheaper than buying Aspect HD. Since you already have Premier 6.5 all you need to buy is the update for about $200. Hope this helps Matt

October 12th, 2003, 10:07 PM	#5
Alex Raskin Trustee Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,435	Matt is right. I have Premiere Pro, and I was able to do the following: - Simply rename .m2t file extensions into .mpg and import into PPro. It will show the video, but apparently it only gets I-frames so the video plays as if it was shot at 10fps. May be good for quick view of the m2t file content. - Good way: download HDTVtoMPEG2 (free utility) and convert m2t files into actual mpg's. Then import these mpg's into Premiere Pro. I do not get real-time playback, but apparently all frames are there. - Best way: convert mpg to AVIs using DVD2AVI (free download) utility. If you use HUFFYUV lossless codec, file size is 2gb per minute vs. 6Gb for Uncompressed AVIs. On my system (P4 2.4Ghz, 1G memory) PPro plays HUFFYUV sources in real time, no problem.

October 13th, 2003, 09:35 AM	#6
David Newman CTO, CineForm Inc. Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Cardiff-by-the-Sea, California Posts: 8,095	This is all true. Aspect HD is for those want more than one stream video on frame accurate editing. People with purchase Aspect HD for the same reason people add Canopus or Matrox DV accelerators to their systems. It is a tool for increased productivity through real-time multi-stream editing, simplified work flow, compatibility with tools like After Effects and more.

October 13th, 2003, 09:55 AM	#8
Alex Raskin Trustee Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,435	Hritik, PPro does NOT have capability to capture HD files from HD cam directly at this time - that's why we have to jump through the loops of multiple file convertions just to get the footage into PPro for editing. But before the conversions you just use the cam's bundled HD capture utility to, well, capture your footage onto your hard drive before conversions. The software you mentioned is available for free download on the Web, just search for it. Either invest your time and do that, or invest $1200 and buy Aspect HD - however Aspect is not available for Premiere Pro at this time, as I heard.

October 13th, 2003, 09:59 AM	#9
David Newman CTO, CineForm Inc. Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Cardiff-by-the-Sea, California Posts: 8,095	That is correct. Aspect HD is still for Premiere 6.5 while we complete to port to Premiere Pro. The Premiere Pro version of Aspect HD will be sent out free to anyone who has purchased the 6.5 version.

October 13th, 2003, 11:47 AM	#11
Alex Raskin Trustee Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,435	You are welcome... The Software seems to bear PIXELA Corp label, if this helps.

October 13th, 2003, 02:52 PM	#12
Hritik Roshan New Boot Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 11	I just ordered the software from the JVC Dealership... Thanks for all your help guys. It is much appreciated.

October 14th, 2003, 04:16 PM	#14
Hritik Roshan New Boot Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 11	maybe so... but I just bit the bullet and paid $150.00 to JVC to mail me the CD Rom... JVC told me that there was no way they could send it to me for free and Broadway Photo were not very helpful in coming to a conclusion on this. Oh well...

October 16th, 2003, 04:35 AM	#15
Lisa Lee Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 86	you bought from broadway photo?? I respect you....very brave, gambling man. Kind of like playing black jack, sooner or later you're going to bust.