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Glenn Gipson · August 13th, 2003, 07:23 AM

Thus far, what is your opinion about this camera?

Rob Shapiro · August 14th, 2003, 10:58 AM

I love the camera - but the software that came with it is terrible.

Im waiting to get my hands on Aspect HD and Premiere Pro - until then, I cant do much with it.

As for playback, the footage looks best on a glass tube HD, projection and plasma screens show too many of the little digital blocks.

Heath McKnight · August 14th, 2003, 01:04 PM

I just wish I could edit; camera sits in the case...Did we jump too soon?

Can't make money if we can't edit (unless those of you out there are actually making cashola).

heath

Joe Russ · August 14th, 2003, 02:31 PM

you can edit easily....after conversion...it comes down to how much you are willing to give i suppose. the lattitude of the camera isn't amazing and the noise from compression on color isn't great but the noise can be delt with in post and as long as you are aware of the look you want less lattitude can actually make lighting easier (at least for me). i definately dont think this camera is for everyone, im not really sure who its for tho. its not for amatuers and i dont know why pros would want something that doesnt offer enough control. so its for the people who cant afford proffesional equipment but want to be in the same league...my 2 cents.

Jose Cavazos · August 15th, 2003, 01:35 PM

I agree with Rob. I'm pretty happy with this camera thus far, but I need to buy more editing software (new Premiere w/ HD plugin)

Rob Shapiro · August 15th, 2003, 03:43 PM

The conversion works nicely, but I cannot figure out how slow-mo the footage, nor do I have any filters available (color pass, film look, etc.)

Again, I think once premierepro is out, things will look better...

Heath McKnight · August 15th, 2003, 03:53 PM

I hear FCP 4 would be good soon for HDV (with plug-ins, of course). Then again, I keep hearing stuff about how badly FCP 4 is; is it as bad as FCP 2 was? That was a nightmare and FCP 3 came out soon after!

heath

Brad Hawkins · August 15th, 2003, 04:09 PM

<<<Heath wrote: Then again, I keep hearing stuff about how buddy FCP 4 is; is it as bad as FCP 2 was? >>>

What do you mean? I've never heard anyone use "buddy" like that before, but from the context I think I understand what you're implying. However, could you elaborate, I haven't been keeping up to date with FCP 4.

Brad

T. Patrick Murray · August 15th, 2003, 05:26 PM

I can tell you right now that
FINAL CUT PRO 4
is the best version yet.

Period. Hands down.

I do not know where to begin- it's just better, easier and
packed with features (and other useful software)

The titling is insane, and the 24p accommodation is of course essential.

Overall, perfect- what I always hoped FCP would evolve into.

Not to say there isn't room for improvement for 5,
but this is one of those programs that you could use for years and years
without HAVING to upgrade, so complete it is.

But hey, that's just my opinion.

T. Patrick Murray

Heath McKnight · August 15th, 2003, 05:35 PM

<<<-- Originally posted by Brad Hawkins : <<<Heath wrote: Then again, I keep hearing stuff about how buddy FCP 4 is; is it as bad as FCP 2 was? >>>

What do you mean? I've never heard anyone use "buddy" like that before, but from the context I think I understand what you're implying. However, could you elaborate, I haven't been keeping up to date with FCP 4.

Brad -->>>

Whoops, I meant a "buddy" saying how "bad" it is. Sorry.

Look, I'm going on what my friend is saying, but maybe his computer is having problems, I don't know. I'm getting kind of sick of updating my OS and FCP versions every year. It's getting too expensive. Maybe every other year I'll do this.

heath

August 13th, 2003, 07:23 AM	#1
Glenn Gipson Major Player Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Plainfield, New Jersey Posts: 927	JVC HD10 owners Thus far, what is your opinion about this camera?

August 14th, 2003, 01:04 PM	#3
Heath McKnight MPS Digital Studios Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Palm Beach County, Florida Posts: 8,531	I just wish I could edit; camera sits in the case...Did we jump too soon? Can't make money if we can't edit (unless those of you out there are actually making cashola). heath __________________ My Final Cut Pro X blog

August 15th, 2003, 03:53 PM	#7
Heath McKnight MPS Digital Studios Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Palm Beach County, Florida Posts: 8,531	I hear FCP 4 would be good soon for HDV (with plug-ins, of course). Then again, I keep hearing stuff about how badly FCP 4 is; is it as bad as FCP 2 was? That was a nightmare and FCP 3 came out soon after! heath __________________ My Final Cut Pro X blog

August 15th, 2003, 05:26 PM	#9
T. Patrick Murray Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 33	I can tell you right now that FINAL CUT PRO 4 is the best version yet. Period. Hands down. I do not know where to begin- it's just better, easier and packed with features (and other useful software) The titling is insane, and the 24p accommodation is of course essential. Overall, perfect- what I always hoped FCP would evolve into. Not to say there isn't room for improvement for 5, but this is one of those programs that you could use for years and years without HAVING to upgrade, so complete it is. But hey, that's just my opinion. T. Patrick Murray __________________ www.TheLastGame.com "The HOOP DREAMS of football..." USA TODAY (Mike Clark) FOUR STARS

August 15th, 2003, 05:35 PM	#10
Heath McKnight MPS Digital Studios Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Palm Beach County, Florida Posts: 8,531	<<<-- Originally posted by Brad Hawkins : <<<Heath wrote: Then again, I keep hearing stuff about how buddy FCP 4 is; is it as bad as FCP 2 was? >>> What do you mean? I've never heard anyone use "buddy" like that before, but from the context I think I understand what you're implying. However, could you elaborate, I haven't been keeping up to date with FCP 4. Brad -->>> Whoops, I meant a "buddy" saying how "bad" it is. Sorry. Look, I'm going on what my friend is saying, but maybe his computer is having problems, I don't know. I'm getting kind of sick of updating my OS and FCP versions every year. It's getting too expensive. Maybe every other year I'll do this. heath __________________ My Final Cut Pro X blog

August 14th, 2003, 10:58 AM	#2
Rob Shapiro Tourist Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Ft Lauderdale, Florida Posts: 2	I love the camera - but the software that came with it is terrible. Im waiting to get my hands on Aspect HD and Premiere Pro - until then, I cant do much with it. As for playback, the footage looks best on a glass tube HD, projection and plasma screens show too many of the little digital blocks.

August 14th, 2003, 02:31 PM	#4
Joe Russ Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: New York, NY Posts: 99	you can edit easily....after conversion...it comes down to how much you are willing to give i suppose. the lattitude of the camera isn't amazing and the noise from compression on color isn't great but the noise can be delt with in post and as long as you are aware of the look you want less lattitude can actually make lighting easier (at least for me). i definately dont think this camera is for everyone, im not really sure who its for tho. its not for amatuers and i dont know why pros would want something that doesnt offer enough control. so its for the people who cant afford proffesional equipment but want to be in the same league...my 2 cents.

August 15th, 2003, 01:35 PM	#5
Jose Cavazos Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 38	I agree with Rob. I'm pretty happy with this camera thus far, but I need to buy more editing software (new Premiere w/ HD plugin)

August 15th, 2003, 03:43 PM	#6
Rob Shapiro Tourist Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Ft Lauderdale, Florida Posts: 2	The conversion works nicely, but I cannot figure out how slow-mo the footage, nor do I have any filters available (color pass, film look, etc.) Again, I think once premierepro is out, things will look better...

August 15th, 2003, 04:09 PM	#8
Brad Hawkins Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Edmond, OK Posts: 38	<<<Heath wrote: Then again, I keep hearing stuff about how buddy FCP 4 is; is it as bad as FCP 2 was? >>> What do you mean? I've never heard anyone use "buddy" like that before, but from the context I think I understand what you're implying. However, could you elaborate, I haven't been keeping up to date with FCP 4. Brad