GR-HD1 Dub to D-VHS Question at DVinfo.net

David C. Scott · July 19th, 2003, 01:05 PM

I've got a brand new GR-HD1 and HM-DH30000U DVHS recorder. I'm trying to make a lossless high def 16:9 dub from the camcorder to the deck, via "i.LINK" (firewire) connection. So far, I've not gotten anything playable. The deck is, in fact, recording something - the display of the DVHS recording on the camcorder screen is choppy and pixelated. But the signal will not lock up on my Pioneer 16:9 monitor. Has anyone done this and, if so, what are the settings on both the camcorder and DVHS deck? (Interestingly, my DVHS deck defaults to "STD" - rather than HD - when it senses the Firewire cable. I've been through both manuals many times but am stumped. What am I doing wrong?

David Kennett · July 19th, 2003, 04:13 PM

Just a thought - is the ilink switch on the camcorder in the MPEG2 position - not DV.

Dave

David C. Scott · July 19th, 2003, 07:50 PM

Yes, I'm switched to MPEG. I think it may have something to do with my Pioneer 750HD. The manual makes no mention of 720p so if the JVC DVHS deck is outputting the 720p that the camcorder recorded, perhaps it needs converting to 1080i, which the Pioneer can handle. Unfortunately, it appears I need the DVHS remote to access the menu where this conversion is an option - and my retailer neglected to include the remote when I left the store. It's being sent to me. In the meantime, I can't figure out why I easily can play my 720p HD 16:9 tapes to the Pioneer via the GR-HD1. Is it somehow automatically converting the 720p to 1080i? And, if so, how does it know to do that?

Steve Mullen · July 20th, 2003, 12:15 AM

the camcorder does as you expect -- 720p30 to 1080i. Set via menu.

the DEFAULT for the DVHS should be to convert 720p to 1080i. set via menu.

David C. Scott · July 20th, 2003, 10:22 AM

Thanks very much for the reply. Interestingly, the camcorder currently is set to "No Conversion". Yet HD footage played on it via the IEEE 1394 connector - but THROUGH the IEEE 1394 connector of the DVHS - play fine on the Pioneer 720HD which, according to the manual, accepts 480p and 1080i, but not 720p. Yet the dub I make played through the DVHS won't lock up on the Pioneer. My confusion is: Why does the 720p original play through the DVHS fine but the dub does not? Seems both would be identical and since the material is traveling the same IEEE 1394 connector path to the Pioneer, both should play the same. (I'm running the IEEE 1394 output of the camcorder through the DVHS deck to avoid constantly switching component cables at the back of the Pioneer. And, incidentally, DTheater tapes which I understand output at 1080i play fine on the Pioneer. Could it be that the 720p signal on the camcorder tape played THROUGH the DVHS somehow doesn't get converted to 1080p because of the DVHS? Maybe the mystery will be solved when I get the remote and can see where this particular DVHS deck is set.

July 19th, 2003, 01:05 PM	#1
David C. Scott Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Atlanta, Georgia Posts: 43	GR-HD1 Dub to D-VHS Question I've got a brand new GR-HD1 and HM-DH30000U DVHS recorder. I'm trying to make a lossless high def 16:9 dub from the camcorder to the deck, via "i.LINK" (firewire) connection. So far, I've not gotten anything playable. The deck is, in fact, recording something - the display of the DVHS recording on the camcorder screen is choppy and pixelated. But the signal will not lock up on my Pioneer 16:9 monitor. Has anyone done this and, if so, what are the settings on both the camcorder and DVHS deck? (Interestingly, my DVHS deck defaults to "STD" - rather than HD - when it senses the Firewire cable. I've been through both manuals many times but am stumped. What am I doing wrong? __________________ David C. Scott

July 19th, 2003, 04:13 PM	#2
David Kennett Major Player Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: North Ridgeville, Ohio Posts: 407	Just a thought - is the ilink switch on the camcorder in the MPEG2 position - not DV. Dave __________________ Dave

July 19th, 2003, 07:50 PM	#3
David C. Scott Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Atlanta, Georgia Posts: 43	Yes, I'm switched to MPEG. I think it may have something to do with my Pioneer 750HD. The manual makes no mention of 720p so if the JVC DVHS deck is outputting the 720p that the camcorder recorded, perhaps it needs converting to 1080i, which the Pioneer can handle. Unfortunately, it appears I need the DVHS remote to access the menu where this conversion is an option - and my retailer neglected to include the remote when I left the store. It's being sent to me. In the meantime, I can't figure out why I easily can play my 720p HD 16:9 tapes to the Pioneer via the GR-HD1. Is it somehow automatically converting the 720p to 1080i? And, if so, how does it know to do that? __________________ David C. Scott

July 20th, 2003, 12:15 AM	#4
Steve Mullen HDV Cinema Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 4,007	the camcorder does as you expect -- 720p30 to 1080i. Set via menu. the DEFAULT for the DVHS should be to convert 720p to 1080i. set via menu. __________________ Switcher's Quick Guide to the Avid Media Composer >>> http://home.mindspring.com/~d-v-c

July 20th, 2003, 10:22 AM	#5
David C. Scott Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Atlanta, Georgia Posts: 43	Thanks very much for the reply. Interestingly, the camcorder currently is set to "No Conversion". Yet HD footage played on it via the IEEE 1394 connector - but THROUGH the IEEE 1394 connector of the DVHS - play fine on the Pioneer 720HD which, according to the manual, accepts 480p and 1080i, but not 720p. Yet the dub I make played through the DVHS won't lock up on the Pioneer. My confusion is: Why does the 720p original play through the DVHS fine but the dub does not? Seems both would be identical and since the material is traveling the same IEEE 1394 connector path to the Pioneer, both should play the same. (I'm running the IEEE 1394 output of the camcorder through the DVHS deck to avoid constantly switching component cables at the back of the Pioneer. And, incidentally, DTheater tapes which I understand output at 1080i play fine on the Pioneer. Could it be that the 720p signal on the camcorder tape played THROUGH the DVHS somehow doesn't get converted to 1080p because of the DVHS? Maybe the mystery will be solved when I get the remote and can see where this particular DVHS deck is set. __________________ David C. Scott