DVX100 vs. JVC HD1 shootout at DVinfo.net

Patrick Bower · July 3rd, 2003, 04:55 PM

People may be interested in this comparison in the Panasonic AG-DVX100 Forum, on http://www.2-pop.com

Frank Granovski · July 3rd, 2003, 08:36 PM

They are very different cams. It's like comparing a TV with a computer monitor.

Chris Hurd · July 3rd, 2003, 09:15 PM

Agreed. Apples and oranges.

Michael Pappas · July 4th, 2003, 02:35 AM

Here is the review from the 2-pop board by: ICExpo traveler.

Note from Chris Hurd:

Sorry, but it is a violation of copyright to take something from 2-pop and post it here. 2-pop retains the rights to everything posted there and we would need their permission to run it here on Dvi. Only the original poster, ICExpo, can come in and repost his own words on our forum. Sorry but those are the rules of message boards -- CH.

Paul Mogg · July 4th, 2003, 10:30 AM

In the main I would agree with this review, though my knowledge of the DVX100 is limited. The JYHD1OU IS an excercise in extremes. It is capable of some incredible pictures, I believe way beyond what you can achieve with the DVX100 in terms of detail, which is the all important factor for large screen projection. But I think we are going to need to study the camera in detail to know how to best achieve those pictures, and learn to shoot around the many problems that the consumerish design of the cameras controls presents us with. I've no doubt that in terms of a working tool the DVX100 is a much better camera. But I love a challenge, and this cameras pictures can be so tantalizingly beatiful with their rich detail, when they are shot right, that I want to work with it.
For me, I don't consider any of those DV cameras in the sub $5,000 range, such as the XL1 or the DVX100 to be "professional" tools, as they are so much touted to be, they all have their major problems. So, for purely artistic non-commercial work, I would prefer to work with a camera tha does not falsely claim to be "professional" and yet delivers a much more "professional" picture in many respects.

p.s. I now hate the word "professional", Microsoft have abused it way too much.

Rodger Marjama · July 4th, 2003, 10:59 AM

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Originally posted by Paul Mogg : ...p.s. I now hate the word "professional", Microsoft have abused it way too much.

I first started hating that word 24 years ago when my sons kindergarten teacher became very upset with me when I didn't agree with her that my son's timidity was reason enough to hold him back in kindergarten. She became quit a huffy 40'ish, hold-over from the 60's hippie type, sliding out of her "groovy" into her "Well, I'm a professional" rhetoric, and her "I think I know what's best for your son" attitude.

Didn't sit very well then. Now whenever I hear "professional", that very sorry and pitiful "professional" pops into my mind. Not a very pleasing thought I can assure you.

-Rodger

Craig Jones · July 4th, 2003, 11:34 AM

As long as we're talking about misuse of words, how about the claim that this was a "shootout". More like an exercise in absurd hyperbole.

July 3rd, 2003, 04:55 PM	#1
Patrick Bower Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: London, England Posts: 126	DVX100 vs. JVC HD1 shootout People may be interested in this comparison in the Panasonic AG-DVX100 Forum, on http://www.2-pop.com

July 3rd, 2003, 09:15 PM	#3
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,368 Images: 513	Agreed. Apples and oranges. __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

July 4th, 2003, 10:30 AM	#5
Paul Mogg Major Player Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: San Francisco CA Posts: 386	In the main I would agree with this review, though my knowledge of the DVX100 is limited. The JYHD1OU IS an excercise in extremes. It is capable of some incredible pictures, I believe way beyond what you can achieve with the DVX100 in terms of detail, which is the all important factor for large screen projection. But I think we are going to need to study the camera in detail to know how to best achieve those pictures, and learn to shoot around the many problems that the consumerish design of the cameras controls presents us with. I've no doubt that in terms of a working tool the DVX100 is a much better camera. But I love a challenge, and this cameras pictures can be so tantalizingly beatiful with their rich detail, when they are shot right, that I want to work with it. For me, I don't consider any of those DV cameras in the sub $5,000 range, such as the XL1 or the DVX100 to be "professional" tools, as they are so much touted to be, they all have their major problems. So, for purely artistic non-commercial work, I would prefer to work with a camera tha does not falsely claim to be "professional" and yet delivers a much more "professional" picture in many respects. p.s. I now hate the word "professional", Microsoft have abused it way too much. __________________ Paul

July 3rd, 2003, 08:36 PM	#2
Frank Granovski Outer Circle Join Date: May 2002 Location: Hope, BC Posts: 7,524	They are very different cams. It's like comparing a TV with a computer monitor.

July 4th, 2003, 02:35 AM	#4
Michael Pappas Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: California Posts: 667	Here is the review from the 2-pop board by: ICExpo traveler. Note from Chris Hurd: Sorry, but it is a violation of copyright to take something from 2-pop and post it here. 2-pop retains the rights to everything posted there and we would need their permission to run it here on Dvi. Only the original poster, ICExpo, can come in and repost his own words on our forum. Sorry but those are the rules of message boards -- CH.

July 4th, 2003, 11:34 AM	#7
Craig Jones Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 105	As long as we're talking about misuse of words, how about the claim that this was a "shootout". More like an exercise in absurd hyperbole.