3CCD tapeless cam coming- JVC! at DVinfo.net

Steve Nunez · March 23rd, 2005, 08:22 PM

Everio GZ-MC500E, sporting 3 CCDs and 4 GB of storage

http://www.cdrinfo.com/Forum/tm.asp?m=104145&mpage=1&#104145

It's coming folks- and not a moment too soon!

Love it!!!!!!!

Chris Hurd · March 23rd, 2005, 08:32 PM

Steve, check out this thread from last November:

Camcorders finally find hard drives.

Steve Nunez · March 23rd, 2005, 08:44 PM

Chris I'm an airhead- thanks for showing me that! I'm thrilled with this new direction (excpet the compression being applied- hopefully they'll go uncompressed or give us the option on the fly- that would be awesome!!!)

Thanks again Chris- you do a spetacular job wrangling this awesome resource!

Joe Carney · March 24th, 2005, 11:38 AM

There is a review of a 1.8" toshiba harddrive over at
http://www.tomshardware.com that also fits into
laptop pcmcia slots. Interesting read. Has enough througput to handle 19mbs.

Gary Bettan · March 25th, 2005, 06:45 AM

In usual JVC fashion - there is a catch. While the files are captured directly to the disk, they can't be edited by any of the current popular NLEs.

Gary
Videoguys.com

Steve Nunez · March 25th, 2005, 08:39 AM

Gary it ships with Windows video editing apps and for Mac users iMovie and FCP can edit the clips.

Gary Bettan · March 25th, 2005, 11:35 AM

At CES I spoke witht he JVC guys and the editing was clumsy at best. You couldn'y simply copy the files and edit. The format would not work in Premiere, Avid, Vegas or Edition.

I hope I'm wrong and this has changed.

Gary

Steve Nunez · March 25th, 2005, 06:01 PM

Gary I read a review and the author was an Apple user and he had no problems using the footage in Final Cut Pro......if I find the URL- I'll post it here.....but i'm pretty sure it's do-able!

Jos Svendsen · March 26th, 2005, 03:28 AM

JVC has decided in a moment of madness that the MPEG2 files on the microdrive should have the suffix .mod

And this is the real problem. The mod-files are very nice quality MPEG2.

If you just copy the files using a microdrive compatible cardreader, and renames the files to .MPG (or whatever your NLE fancies), then you can edit them with no problems.

Hovever the sound is 2 channel AC-3, and this gives problems in most NLE's. I ended up converting the files in Procoder, as I could not get Vegas to understand AC-3.

Jesse Bekas · March 27th, 2005, 12:21 AM

<<<-- Originally posted by Jos Svendsen :
Hovever the sound is 2 channel AC-3, and this gives problems in most NLE's. I ended up converting the files in Procoder, as I could not get Vegas to understand AC-3. -->>>

Wouldn't the AC-3 plug-in take care of that?

Jos Svendsen · March 27th, 2005, 06:10 AM

No; the AC3-plugin is for encoding only. In order to playback AC3 you have to have decoding software and a license from dolby. Veges does not have that.

However most applications with build in DVD-playback do. This means apps like DVD-architect, DVD-workshop etc etc.
Even Pinnacle Studio 9+ will play the file.

So it is no problems using the files in a DVD-application, but if you want to edit the video in a NLE as Vegas, Premiere or FCP, then you have to convert the files due to AC3.

March 23rd, 2005, 08:32 PM	#2
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,368 Images: 513	Steve, check out this thread from last November: Camcorders finally find hard drives. __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

March 23rd, 2005, 08:44 PM	#3
Steve Nunez Trustee Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Pembroke Pines, Florida Posts: 1,418	Chris I'm an airhead- thanks for showing me that! I'm thrilled with this new direction (excpet the compression being applied- hopefully they'll go uncompressed or give us the option on the fly- that would be awesome!!!) Thanks again Chris- you do a spetacular job wrangling this awesome resource! __________________ Steve Nunez-New York City www.stevenunez.com

March 25th, 2005, 06:45 AM	#5
Gary Bettan Sponsor: Electronic Mailbox Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Glen Cove, NY Posts: 758	In usual JVC fashion - there is a catch. While the files are captured directly to the disk, they can't be edited by any of the current popular NLEs. Gary Videoguys.com __________________ Check out http://www.videoguys.com 800 323-2325 We are the video editing and live video production experts! DV InfoNet members save 5%! Use Coupon Code DVINFO5OFF

March 25th, 2005, 08:39 AM	#6
Steve Nunez Trustee Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Pembroke Pines, Florida Posts: 1,418	Gary it ships with Windows video editing apps and for Mac users iMovie and FCP can edit the clips. __________________ Steve Nunez-New York City www.stevenunez.com

March 25th, 2005, 11:35 AM	#7
Gary Bettan Sponsor: Electronic Mailbox Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Glen Cove, NY Posts: 758	At CES I spoke witht he JVC guys and the editing was clumsy at best. You couldn'y simply copy the files and edit. The format would not work in Premiere, Avid, Vegas or Edition. I hope I'm wrong and this has changed. Gary __________________ Check out http://www.videoguys.com 800 323-2325 We are the video editing and live video production experts! DV InfoNet members save 5%! Use Coupon Code DVINFO5OFF

March 23rd, 2005, 08:22 PM	#1
Steve Nunez Trustee Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Pembroke Pines, Florida Posts: 1,418	3CCD tapeless cam coming- JVC! Everio GZ-MC500E, sporting 3 CCDs and 4 GB of storage http://www.cdrinfo.com/Forum/tm.asp?m=104145&mpage=1&#104145 It's coming folks- and not a moment too soon! Love it!!!!!!! __________________ Steve Nunez-New York City www.stevenunez.com

March 24th, 2005, 11:38 AM	#4
Joe Carney Inner Circle Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Centreville Va Posts: 1,828	There is a review of a 1.8" toshiba harddrive over at http://www.tomshardware.com that also fits into laptop pcmcia slots. Interesting read. Has enough througput to handle 19mbs.

March 25th, 2005, 06:01 PM	#8
Steve Nunez Trustee Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Pembroke Pines, Florida Posts: 1,418	Gary I read a review and the author was an Apple user and he had no problems using the footage in Final Cut Pro......if I find the URL- I'll post it here.....but i'm pretty sure it's do-able! __________________ Steve Nunez-New York City www.stevenunez.com

March 26th, 2005, 03:28 AM	#9
Jos Svendsen Major Player Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark Posts: 221	No problem in editing JVC has decided in a moment of madness that the MPEG2 files on the microdrive should have the suffix .mod And this is the real problem. The mod-files are very nice quality MPEG2. If you just copy the files using a microdrive compatible cardreader, and renames the files to .MPG (or whatever your NLE fancies), then you can edit them with no problems. Hovever the sound is 2 channel AC-3, and this gives problems in most NLE's. I ended up converting the files in Procoder, as I could not get Vegas to understand AC-3. __________________ ---------------------------- 12c41 JOS. Svendsen

March 27th, 2005, 12:21 AM	#10
Jesse Bekas Major Player Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Ridgefield Park, New Jersey, USA Posts: 572	Re: No problem in editing <<<-- Originally posted by Jos Svendsen : Hovever the sound is 2 channel AC-3, and this gives problems in most NLE's. I ended up converting the files in Procoder, as I could not get Vegas to understand AC-3. -->>> Wouldn't the AC-3 plug-in take care of that?

March 27th, 2005, 06:10 AM	#11
Jos Svendsen Major Player Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark Posts: 221	No; the AC3-plugin is for encoding only. In order to playback AC3 you have to have decoding software and a license from dolby. Veges does not have that. However most applications with build in DVD-playback do. This means apps like DVD-architect, DVD-workshop etc etc. Even Pinnacle Studio 9+ will play the file. So it is no problems using the files in a DVD-application, but if you want to edit the video in a NLE as Vegas, Premiere or FCP, then you have to convert the files due to AC3. __________________ ---------------------------- 12c41 JOS. Svendsen