LS300 Honeymoon over

John Nantz · November 23rd, 2015, 12:14 AM

Hi Noa,
Thanks for the bokeh info and that was much appreciated.

One more question, if I may ask, and this is probably going to be harder, how do you think the color or look of the video of the FDR-AX100 would compare, or match up, with the LS300?

It’s been said that Panasonic, JVC, and Cannon have sorta the warm and creamy look while the Sony has the sorta cool and sharp look. What would probably make it tough, is the choice of lens and the settings used. Anyway, I was just wondering how far apart the 100 and the 300 is. Would the two clips clash if put together or maybe just look a little different? Really noticeable or somewhat noticeable? Not looking to pixel peep or nit pick. Obviously a prime lens will look different.

The other thing is the AX100 has a 1” sensor while the LS300 has a Super 35 sensor and size-wise there is a fair amount of difference.

Personally, I’ve got a couple Nikon lenses and given the adapter that would be needed it is the least cost, and the shortest length (bringing the center of gravity of the lens closer in), so going the Nikon lens route would help me out. Would really like some kind of a + or - 10X power zoom lens in the kit, though, and haven’t come across one yet. Can’t always be running around wearing a lens vest. I really like the AX100 and it’d be nice if it could somehow work, even conditionally.

P.S. I’m an old film guy too so I know where Steve is coming from. Film was expensive and trying to save a bit and squeeze an extra frame out of the roll sometimes would cost the whole roll. Talk about a bummer. Today the only cost of 4K is storage but at least it’s coming down in price.

And another P.S. That was a really nice link to the video of the dog shooting a GoPro. Really, really good! And not just the dog, the whole video was good. Our dog passed away but if he was around I’d almost consider getting remarried. But that video was sooo good! Thanks for sharing. Did you notice near the end when the couple kissed the dog kinda looked away? Wonder if this was an accident or if he didn’t care for them getting married?

Steve Rosen · November 24th, 2015, 01:08 PM

John, sorry, the last Sony I used was a DSR500, and that was 15 years ago, so I can't be of much help.

I do know that, while setting up my Pockets Cameras, I was unable to perfectly match a friends Sony footage (sorry, I don't remember which camera, but it was of fairly recent lineage) with the BM footage.

I AM able to match the Pocket with the LS300 though - that's one of those "If A equals B, and B equals C, then A must equal C" assumptions. So my guess would be the Sony footage might get close, but not be a perfect match.

Noa Put · November 24th, 2015, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by John Nantz

One more question, if I may ask, and this is probably going to be harder, how do you think the color or look of the video of the FDR-AX100 would compare, or match up, with the LS300?

I will send you a link to a photo you can download with a ls300, gh4 and ax100 headshot from myself, it's a small crop taken from a 4K frame, all where set at the same whitebalance, the ls300 and gh4 where set at iso 400, with a 25mm lens at f1.4, the ax100 was a bit zoomed in but was already at 15db gain. Pls only use it for your own reference :) I also had to move the gh4 further back a bit so the framing is a bit off compared to the ls300, this is because the ls300 doesn't crop as much in 4K like the gh4 does.

The jvc has some really nice cinema like color science going on, when you place it next to the gh4 you"ll notice the gh4 doesn't give nice skintones at all, at least not in standard, natural and cine-v modes, only cine-d comes closest, the one I used had contrast and saturation dialed back, not specifically for this test but it was already preset like this from another shoot.. The ax100 would be possible to get close enough with some colorcorrection because it has much more contrast and more red/magenta color when I look on the vectorscope. What do you think?

This is only in regard to skintones, I will be doing some more shooting the next days and will take my ax100 along as well so will let you know how that matches up, it's a combination of camera's I am planning to use in the future so I have to know.

November 23rd, 2015, 12:14 AM	#76
John Nantz Trustee Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Seattle WA Posts: 1,254	Re: LS300 Honeymoon over Hi Noa, Thanks for the bokeh info and that was much appreciated. One more question, if I may ask, and this is probably going to be harder, how do you think the color or look of the video of the FDR-AX100 would compare, or match up, with the LS300? It’s been said that Panasonic, JVC, and Cannon have sorta the warm and creamy look while the Sony has the sorta cool and sharp look. What would probably make it tough, is the choice of lens and the settings used. Anyway, I was just wondering how far apart the 100 and the 300 is. Would the two clips clash if put together or maybe just look a little different? Really noticeable or somewhat noticeable? Not looking to pixel peep or nit pick. Obviously a prime lens will look different. The other thing is the AX100 has a 1” sensor while the LS300 has a Super 35 sensor and size-wise there is a fair amount of difference. Personally, I’ve got a couple Nikon lenses and given the adapter that would be needed it is the least cost, and the shortest length (bringing the center of gravity of the lens closer in), so going the Nikon lens route would help me out. Would really like some kind of a + or - 10X power zoom lens in the kit, though, and haven’t come across one yet. Can’t always be running around wearing a lens vest. I really like the AX100 and it’d be nice if it could somehow work, even conditionally. P.S. I’m an old film guy too so I know where Steve is coming from. Film was expensive and trying to save a bit and squeeze an extra frame out of the roll sometimes would cost the whole roll. Talk about a bummer. Today the only cost of 4K is storage but at least it’s coming down in price. And another P.S. That was a really nice link to the video of the dog shooting a GoPro. Really, really good! And not just the dog, the whole video was good. Our dog passed away but if he was around I’d almost consider getting remarried. But that video was sooo good! Thanks for sharing. Did you notice near the end when the couple kissed the dog kinda looked away? Wonder if this was an accident or if he didn’t care for them getting married?

November 24th, 2015, 01:08 PM	#77
Steve Rosen Major Player Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Monterey, California Posts: 895	Re: LS300 Honeymoon over John, sorry, the last Sony I used was a DSR500, and that was 15 years ago, so I can't be of much help. I do know that, while setting up my Pockets Cameras, I was unable to perfectly match a friends Sony footage (sorry, I don't remember which camera, but it was of fairly recent lineage) with the BM footage. I AM able to match the Pocket with the LS300 though - that's one of those "If A equals B, and B equals C, then A must equal C" assumptions. So my guess would be the Sony footage might get close, but not be a perfect match.