Camera Crane for my FX1 what tripod do i need at DVinfo.net

Jim Rog · October 6th, 2006, 03:34 PM

Hello

I want to get a camera crane for my FX1 can anyone advise what tripod and head i will need

At the moment i have a Manfrotto 055CL http://www.manfrotto.com/Jahia/site/...fonce/pid/2048 will this sort of basic tripod be any good for a crane with the right head or will i need to upgrade to a better one

Thank you for your help

Duncan Craig · November 11th, 2006, 07:47 PM

I wouldn't trust a tripod without strong speaders to hold the legs together. Also the extra weight of the jib and weights often means that you can't raise the tripod legs off their lowest position without worrying that the entire thing will fall over.

I have a Z1 and originally I bought a Vinten Pro5 tripod. Then the Hague MultiJib (fantastic) The Pro5 will hold the weight of the full jib and camera. But the speaders sometimes start to give up, and the legs of the tripod start to drift apart (bad).
You can't raise the tripod legs stages up with too much weight on. I regularly run with two sections of the jib on, and it's all fine.

Sometimes I'll use a single length on the jib, and I can get away raising the sections on the tripod, without any slipping.

My Z1 has a Large Vocas matte box and Wideangle adaptor on, so it's heavy. Anyway the head on the Pro5 has always been crappy, with no counter balance.

So I bought a Pro6 and the counterbalance wasn't up the job. After a call to Vinten the Pro10 was soon put in the post and also the matching Protouch Dolly. It's a vast improvement. The pozilok system used on the Pro6 and 10 legs is really strong, it's so strong I put all my weight on the legs and it didn't budge. Great. Then the dolly. It's built really well with very large rubber wheels (shopping trolley sized, but soft and with cable guards). It's under £200 and well worth the cash.

So the new set up can have the full jib with camera and the legs raised while on the dolly to wheel around the location.

I've had the jib well over a year and operate it from the camera end, which allows me to get the camera well into the air. The next step is to get a Varizoom remote head.

Enough ramling off to bed, good luck.

Sean Seah · October 1st, 2007, 06:59 AM

Had to dig up this old thread as I'm having the same problem now.. Hi Duncan, I m looking at the 12Ft kessler crane now n I have the Pro 6. Just to confirm that u upgraded to the Pro 10, while keeping the same Pozi Loc tripod right?

In my case, I just need to upgrade the pan head to the Pro 10 probably to handle the weight..

Chris Soucy · October 1st, 2007, 10:21 PM

you guys check out the Manfrotto 528XB tripod for crane use. It's designed with that in mind, built like a tank, has leg pins which means you don't have to rely on the friction from the leg release to keep it up and the spreader is built likewise. Can go to full height with 50 kilos (100 plus pounds) on top and keep it there without a murmur.

Magic. Just don't try to backpack it anywhere - it's sodding heavy.

CS

Sean Seah · October 1st, 2007, 11:11 PM

oops i cant get the pro 10 head alone here.. the only choice is the Manfrotto 503HDV or 516 which i think would be a much better choice but this addition just busted my budget so... looks like I will have to wait out for the moment

October 6th, 2006, 03:34 PM	#1
Jim Rog Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: PAL Zone Posts: 188	Camera Crane for my FX1 what tripod do i need Hello I want to get a camera crane for my FX1 can anyone advise what tripod and head i will need At the moment i have a Manfrotto 055CL http://www.manfrotto.com/Jahia/site/...fonce/pid/2048 will this sort of basic tripod be any good for a crane with the right head or will i need to upgrade to a better one Thank you for your help

November 11th, 2006, 07:47 PM	#2
Duncan Craig Major Player Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Leeds, UK Posts: 660 Images: 10	Hello I wouldn't trust a tripod without strong speaders to hold the legs together. Also the extra weight of the jib and weights often means that you can't raise the tripod legs off their lowest position without worrying that the entire thing will fall over. I have a Z1 and originally I bought a Vinten Pro5 tripod. Then the Hague MultiJib (fantastic) The Pro5 will hold the weight of the full jib and camera. But the speaders sometimes start to give up, and the legs of the tripod start to drift apart (bad). You can't raise the tripod legs stages up with too much weight on. I regularly run with two sections of the jib on, and it's all fine. Sometimes I'll use a single length on the jib, and I can get away raising the sections on the tripod, without any slipping. My Z1 has a Large Vocas matte box and Wideangle adaptor on, so it's heavy. Anyway the head on the Pro5 has always been crappy, with no counter balance. So I bought a Pro6 and the counterbalance wasn't up the job. After a call to Vinten the Pro10 was soon put in the post and also the matching Protouch Dolly. It's a vast improvement. The pozilok system used on the Pro6 and 10 legs is really strong, it's so strong I put all my weight on the legs and it didn't budge. Great. Then the dolly. It's built really well with very large rubber wheels (shopping trolley sized, but soft and with cable guards). It's under £200 and well worth the cash. So the new set up can have the full jib with camera and the legs raised while on the dolly to wheel around the location. I've had the jib well over a year and operate it from the camera end, which allows me to get the camera well into the air. The next step is to get a Varizoom remote head. Enough ramling off to bed, good luck.

October 1st, 2007, 10:21 PM	#4
Chris Soucy Inner Circle Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Fairfield, Dunedin, New Zealand Posts: 3,689 Images: 18	Strongly recommend........ you guys check out the Manfrotto 528XB tripod for crane use. It's designed with that in mind, built like a tank, has leg pins which means you don't have to rely on the friction from the leg release to keep it up and the spreader is built likewise. Can go to full height with 50 kilos (100 plus pounds) on top and keep it there without a murmur. Magic. Just don't try to backpack it anywhere - it's sodding heavy. CS

October 1st, 2007, 06:59 AM	#3
Sean Seah Trustee Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,498	Had to dig up this old thread as I'm having the same problem now.. Hi Duncan, I m looking at the 12Ft kessler crane now n I have the Pro 6. Just to confirm that u upgraded to the Pro 10, while keeping the same Pozi Loc tripod right? In my case, I just need to upgrade the pan head to the Pro 10 probably to handle the weight..

October 1st, 2007, 11:11 PM	#5
Sean Seah Trustee Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,498	oops i cant get the pro 10 head alone here.. the only choice is the Manfrotto 503HDV or 516 which i think would be a much better choice but this addition just busted my budget so... looks like I will have to wait out for the moment