What's a cheap HDV NLE package? at DVinfo.net

Frank Granovski · August 8th, 2006, 01:38 AM

It's all in in the title. :-(

Dave Perry · August 8th, 2006, 05:37 AM

iMovie is $2499, but of course it comes with a free brand new MacPro :)

Frank Granovski · August 8th, 2006, 05:09 PM

Yeah, yeah.... I see I made the wrong choice in computers.

Chris Barcellos · August 8th, 2006, 05:18 PM

Vegas Movie Studio Platinum has HDV native capture. About $75 to $100. Its has a limited version of Vegas, which will meet most needs you will initially have.

If you have Premiere already, you can update to Pro 1.51 which captures in Cineform format, and edits in that same format. About $200 for the update. Or you can update to PPro 2.0 and capture and edit in native. Also about $200.00. You need a good system to handle heavy load of native editing. I am not sure if Premiere Elements stripped down verision does hdv.

Pinnacle Studio 10 plus captures and edits in native HDV. It uses same engine as Liquid Edition. About $75 to $89. Warning, while I have not had issues, some are reporting problems with 10 plus.

Oh, by the way, you didn't get wrong system.

Frank Granovski · August 8th, 2006, 06:56 PM

Thanks. :-)

I already bought the wrong system.

Tommy Haupfear · August 8th, 2006, 07:37 PM

Hey Frank,

I primarily use Premiere to edit HDV but I also have Pinnacle Studio 10.5 which set me back about $150 and came with a nifty litle analog video breakout box (s-video/composite I/0).

I have heard of problems as Chris Barcellos mentioned in his post about problems with 10 but I guess they had them worked out with 10.5 as I haven't had a single problem.

If I remember correctly Studio 10.5 recommends 2GHz CPU and 1GB of ram.

You can download a trial for free and Studio 10.5 itself is about $70 USD.

http://www.pinnaclesys.com/PublicSit...I+version+10_5

Frank Granovski · August 9th, 2006, 04:20 AM

Pinnacle Studio 10.5, eh? I hope it's professional besides cheap. Thank's, Tommy!

I'm trying to find reviews. If I would have bought a MAC, I would not have this problem of digging for info.

Hans Ledel · August 9th, 2006, 06:34 AM

Hi

Take a look at Ulead and there new Videostudio 10 plus.

It uses a proxy to edit HDV and it is cheap

Take a look at there site
Ulead.com

Cheers

Hans

Denis Danatzko · August 9th, 2006, 07:04 AM

with Pinnacle Studio, check out www.pinnaclesys.com. Click "Support", then "Forums". You'll find lots of questions and answers there offered from experts to novices. It's often difficult to get answers directly from their tech people, but you'll find some peppered among the forums.

I started w/Studio 9, eventually upgraded to Plus 9, and recerntly bought Premiere Production Suite. Quite a steep learning curve moving from Stuio to Premiere, while I found Studio very easy to learn.

Martin Mayer · August 9th, 2006, 07:04 AM

Buy a cheap unregistered copy of obsolete FCP 4, and crossgrade it to FCS for $199.

(OKOK, you need a Mac. Again. )

Frank Granovski · August 9th, 2006, 10:21 PM

Yeah, I need a MAC again. :-(

If only I were smart....

Chris M. Watson · August 9th, 2006, 11:00 PM

Define "cheap" and the computer system you have right now.

Chris Watson
Watson Videography

Chris Barcellos · August 9th, 2006, 11:16 PM

Frank:

I don't think Pinnacle Studio can be termed professional. You can get some professional results using the various components, but it does lack a lot of features the pro suites have. I consider it a good basic entry tool for DV, DVD production, and HDV production that has inherent limitations.

Lawrence Spurgeon · August 12th, 2006, 03:34 AM

I generally like Videostudio 10 better. Also would run better on less great hardware.

Duane Prince · August 12th, 2006, 10:55 AM

..someone also mentioned Vegas's Movie Studio Platinum, which is what I would recommend, & it also does primary color correction.. It also includes DVD Architect, to burn DVD's....

..it comes with animated tutorials, a nice chromakeyer, a basic title'er, & you don't need a powerful computer, but it helps...

August 8th, 2006, 01:38 AM	#1
Frank Granovski Outer Circle Join Date: May 2002 Location: Hope, BC Posts: 7,524	What's a cheap HDV NLE package? It's all in in the title. :-(

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August 8th, 2006, 05:18 PM	#4
Chris Barcellos Inner Circle Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Elk Grove CA Posts: 6,838	Vegas Movie Studio Platinum has HDV native capture. About $75 to $100. Its has a limited version of Vegas, which will meet most needs you will initially have. If you have Premiere already, you can update to Pro 1.51 which captures in Cineform format, and edits in that same format. About $200 for the update. Or you can update to PPro 2.0 and capture and edit in native. Also about $200.00. You need a good system to handle heavy load of native editing. I am not sure if Premiere Elements stripped down verision does hdv. Pinnacle Studio 10 plus captures and edits in native HDV. It uses same engine as Liquid Edition. About $75 to $89. Warning, while I have not had issues, some are reporting problems with 10 plus. Oh, by the way, you didn't get wrong system. __________________ Chris J. Barcellos

August 9th, 2006, 06:34 AM	#8
Hans Ledel Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Stockholm Sweden Posts: 184	Hi Take a look at Ulead and there new Videostudio 10 plus. It uses a proxy to edit HDV and it is cheap Take a look at there site Ulead.com Cheers Hans __________________ Remember, that English is my second language.

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Denis Danatzko Major Player Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: NYC Metro area Posts: 579	For a better idea of what others are experiencing with Pinnacle Studio, check out www.pinnaclesys.com. Click "Support", then "Forums". You'll find lots of questions and answers there offered from experts to novices. It's often difficult to get answers directly from their tech people, but you'll find some peppered among the forums. I started w/Studio 9, eventually upgraded to Plus 9, and recerntly bought Premiere Production Suite. Quite a steep learning curve moving from Stuio to Premiere, while I found Studio very easy to learn. __________________ Denis ------------ Our actions are based on our own experience and knowledge. Thus, no one is ever totally right, nor totally wrong. We simply act from what we "know" to be true, based on that experience and knowledge. Beyond that, we pose questions to others. Last edited by Denis Danatzko; August 9th, 2006 at 07:08 AM. Reason: Encourge awareness of potential problems.

August 8th, 2006, 05:09 PM	#3
Frank Granovski Outer Circle Join Date: May 2002 Location: Hope, BC Posts: 7,524	Yeah, yeah.... I see I made the wrong choice in computers.

August 8th, 2006, 06:56 PM	#5
Frank Granovski Outer Circle Join Date: May 2002 Location: Hope, BC Posts: 7,524	Thanks. :-) I already bought the wrong system.

August 8th, 2006, 07:37 PM	#6
Tommy Haupfear Wrangler Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Greenville, SC Posts: 1,415	Hey Frank, I primarily use Premiere to edit HDV but I also have Pinnacle Studio 10.5 which set me back about $150 and came with a nifty litle analog video breakout box (s-video/composite I/0). I have heard of problems as Chris Barcellos mentioned in his post about problems with 10 but I guess they had them worked out with 10.5 as I haven't had a single problem. If I remember correctly Studio 10.5 recommends 2GHz CPU and 1GB of ram. You can download a trial for free and Studio 10.5 itself is about $70 USD. http://www.pinnaclesys.com/PublicSit...I+version+10_5

August 9th, 2006, 04:20 AM	#7
Frank Granovski Outer Circle Join Date: May 2002 Location: Hope, BC Posts: 7,524	Pinnacle Studio 10.5, eh? I hope it's professional besides cheap. Thank's, Tommy! I'm trying to find reviews. If I would have bought a MAC, I would not have this problem of digging for info.

August 9th, 2006, 07:04 AM	#10
Martin Mayer Major Player Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Oxfordshire, UK Posts: 416	Buy a cheap unregistered copy of obsolete FCP 4, and crossgrade it to FCS for $199. (OKOK, you need a Mac. Again. ) __________________ Martin at HeadSpin HD on Blu-ray

August 9th, 2006, 10:21 PM	#11
Frank Granovski Outer Circle Join Date: May 2002 Location: Hope, BC Posts: 7,524	Yeah, I need a MAC again. :-( If only I were smart....

August 9th, 2006, 11:00 PM	#12
Chris M. Watson Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Fort Worth, TX Posts: 104	Define "cheap" and the computer system you have right now. Chris Watson Watson Videography

August 9th, 2006, 11:16 PM	#13
Chris Barcellos Inner Circle Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Elk Grove CA Posts: 6,838	Frank: I don't think Pinnacle Studio can be termed professional. You can get some professional results using the various components, but it does lack a lot of features the pro suites have. I consider it a good basic entry tool for DV, DVD production, and HDV production that has inherent limitations. __________________ Chris J. Barcellos

August 12th, 2006, 03:34 AM	#14
Lawrence Spurgeon Regular Crew Join Date: May 2006 Location: Honolulu, HI Posts: 31	I have Pinnacle 10.5 and Ulead 10 I generally like Videostudio 10 better. Also would run better on less great hardware.

August 12th, 2006, 10:55 AM	#15
Duane Prince Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: central AZ. Posts: 36	..someone also mentioned Vegas's Movie Studio Platinum, which is what I would recommend, & it also does primary color correction.. It also includes DVD Architect, to burn DVD's.... ..it comes with animated tutorials, a nice chromakeyer, a basic title'er, & you don't need a powerful computer, but it helps... __________________ tumbleweed