Editing software (PC) for DVCproHD ? at DVinfo.net

Jon Miova · March 4th, 2006, 11:32 PM

I know i should (?) use Apple video editing platform with my Panasonic HVX-200, but i would like to use PC if possible...

Is the new Adobe Premiere pro 2.0 support DVCpro HD ? i can't find the thread about that in the Hvx200 section...

As a newbie, i really want USER-FRIENDLY software. I don't have much time to learn and i lose patience fast when it's not efficient.

Any recommendation ?

Earl Thurston · March 4th, 2006, 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Jon Miova

Is the new Adobe Premiere pro 2.0 support DVCpro HD ?

Not natively yet, unfortunately. You either have to use expensive third-party hardware like the Matrox Axio, or DVFilm's Raylight software to convert the P2 MXF files to AVI.

Jon Miova · March 5th, 2006, 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Earl Thurston

Not natively yet, unfortunately. You either have to use expensive third-party hardware like the Matrox Axio, or DVFilm's Raylight software to convert the P2 MXF files to AVI.

Thank you Earl for the info..

Well, is that mean that Apple is THE only real solution for the Panasonic Hvx200 for now ?

Let's say i'm all beginning this from scratch.. Will it be a good idea anyway to go (and learn) with apple/Final cut pro platform instead of going with PC/"whatever that will comes out sometime" ?

*Apple angel saying "Come with us, we're better!" *

David Andrews · March 5th, 2006, 04:02 AM

Edius Broadcast will edit P2 and preserves .mxf file data. If you decide to explore this route it would be advisable to check out minimum specs. The HP XW8200 with dual Xeon processors is said to to the job well.

Jon Miova · March 5th, 2006, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by David Andrews

Edius Broadcast will edit P2 and preserves .mxf file data. If you decide to explore this route it would be advisable to check out minimum specs. The HP XW8200 with dual Xeon processors is said to to the job well.

How is Edius Broadcast compared to other software (fcp, app, etc..)

At 900$ the price seems reasonable.

David Andrews · March 6th, 2006, 04:11 AM

You will find a lot of information here:
http://www.canopus.com/home.php

If you are familiar with Premiere, this site will be useful for making comparisons:
http://www.panoramaproductions.net/edius.html
This site is by someone who has made the transition and offers his experiences.

I do not know enough about other apps to offer a reliable comparison for you. But based on comments made by others Edius, in its current 3.61 version, offers fewer features than other nles - it has been around for a much shorter time. Some do not like the interface - it is different. On the other hand, on the right hardware, it will probably offer more RT performance than most. It also appears to offer better access to the new HDV/HD formats than some other nles. If speed and time saving matter more than compositing then it is worth a look.

The Canopus site listed above includes comprehensive product information, on line tutorials on getting started and a route to the Canopus forums which are very helpful.

Kevin Shaw · March 6th, 2006, 03:26 PM

For PC-based editing of P2 footage, Edius Broadcast sounds like the way to go for now, but you might also take a look at the latest Avid HD solutions. Avid Liquid can reportedly handle DVCPro50 footage fine but not DVCProHD yet. Edius is a little limited in terms of some advanced features but is being successfully used by many people for professional purposes, and is being adopted by some TV stations for its real-time capabilities.

By some accounts Edius Broadcast currently has *the* best support for HD MXF files, e.g. compared to FCP which has to convert them to a Quicktime wrapper before editing.

Jon Miova · March 6th, 2006, 11:50 PM

And regarding the easy-to-learn side (i never touched any video editing software, only photo) should i go with Apple/FCP combo or PC/canopus ?

Kevin Shaw · March 7th, 2006, 12:38 AM

Any advanced video editing application is likely to take some time to learn. Final Cut Pro is probably more standardized than Edius and will have more training options available; Edius has proved easy to learn for some people and hard for others, with limited training solutions.

David Andrews · March 7th, 2006, 03:12 AM

I switched from Premiere 6.5 to Edius at v1. I found Premiere awkward to use (and unreliable) and Edius easier to use and very reliable) - but that is a personal thing. My own experience with Edius is that you can start just doing simple things very easily and work into more complicated things at your own pace. That said there will be a learning hump to get over initially whichever software you go for.

March 4th, 2006, 11:32 PM	#1
Jon Miova Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 47	Editing software (PC) for DVCproHD ? I know i should (?) use Apple video editing platform with my Panasonic HVX-200, but i would like to use PC if possible... Is the new Adobe Premiere pro 2.0 support DVCpro HD ? i can't find the thread about that in the Hvx200 section... As a newbie, i really want USER-FRIENDLY software. I don't have much time to learn and i lose patience fast when it's not efficient. Any recommendation ?

March 5th, 2006, 04:02 AM	#4
David Andrews Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 131	Edius Broadcast will edit P2 and preserves .mxf file data. If you decide to explore this route it would be advisable to check out minimum specs. The HP XW8200 with dual Xeon processors is said to to the job well.

March 6th, 2006, 04:11 AM	#6
David Andrews Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 131	You will find a lot of information here: http://www.canopus.com/home.php If you are familiar with Premiere, this site will be useful for making comparisons: http://www.panoramaproductions.net/edius.html This site is by someone who has made the transition and offers his experiences. I do not know enough about other apps to offer a reliable comparison for you. But based on comments made by others Edius, in its current 3.61 version, offers fewer features than other nles - it has been around for a much shorter time. Some do not like the interface - it is different. On the other hand, on the right hardware, it will probably offer more RT performance than most. It also appears to offer better access to the new HDV/HD formats than some other nles. If speed and time saving matter more than compositing then it is worth a look. The Canopus site listed above includes comprehensive product information, on line tutorials on getting started and a route to the Canopus forums which are very helpful.

March 6th, 2006, 03:26 PM	#7
Kevin Shaw Inner Circle Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 2,488	For PC-based editing of P2 footage, Edius Broadcast sounds like the way to go for now, but you might also take a look at the latest Avid HD solutions. Avid Liquid can reportedly handle DVCPro50 footage fine but not DVCProHD yet. Edius is a little limited in terms of some advanced features but is being successfully used by many people for professional purposes, and is being adopted by some TV stations for its real-time capabilities. By some accounts Edius Broadcast currently has the best support for HD MXF files, e.g. compared to FCP which has to convert them to a Quicktime wrapper before editing.

March 6th, 2006, 11:50 PM	#8
Jon Miova Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 47	And regarding the easy-to-learn side (i never touched any video editing software, only photo) should i go with Apple/FCP combo or PC/canopus ?

March 7th, 2006, 12:38 AM	#9
Kevin Shaw Inner Circle Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 2,488	Any advanced video editing application is likely to take some time to learn. Final Cut Pro is probably more standardized than Edius and will have more training options available; Edius has proved easy to learn for some people and hard for others, with limited training solutions.

March 7th, 2006, 03:12 AM	#10
David Andrews Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 131	I switched from Premiere 6.5 to Edius at v1. I found Premiere awkward to use (and unreliable) and Edius easier to use and very reliable) - but that is a personal thing. My own experience with Edius is that you can start just doing simple things very easily and work into more complicated things at your own pace. That said there will be a learning hump to get over initially whichever software you go for.