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January 19th, 2006, 01:42 AM

Is it possible to get good progressive at post from an interlaced footage? Equal to a native progressive shooting?

Or to go to 24p or 25p from 60i/50i isn't it the same that shooting progressive? What can we count? The results will be below? Not so progressive or film-like?

Will it imply resolution losses like vertical one, for instance?

What is the best editing solution to achieve the best progressive workflow with film-look from an interlaced stream? What is the best affordable software provider?

Acceptable to 35mm film-out?

Don Donatello · January 19th, 2006, 08:44 PM

"Is it possible to get good progressive at post from an interlaced footage? Equal to a native progressive shooting?"

NO not equal

"Or to go to 24p or 25p from 60i/50i isn't it the same that shooting progressive? What can we count? The results will be below? Not so progressive or film-like?"

it will be progressive but you loose a little in the 60i to 24p conversion

"Will it imply resolution losses like vertical one, for instance?"

there is always resolution lost .. less or more depends on method used to create the progressive

"What is the best editing solution to achieve the best progressive workflow with film-look from an interlaced stream? What is the best affordable software provider?"

most tape to film transfer houses have their own software/hardware methods... for home use a few years ago there was a test done on different ways .. i believe using 2 of "revisions" plug ins came out the best.

"Acceptable to 35mm film-out?"

Yes !! until the panasonic dvx 100 came out all video had to be 60i to 24p converted .. orginal 4:2:2 media has excellent results .. DVX has very good results ,, DV good .... but it all is dependent on how it's lit, exposed etc

Boyd Ostroff · January 19th, 2006, 08:51 PM

You don't mention what computer platform you use. DVfilm Maker runs under both Windows and MacOSX: http://www.dvfilm.com/maker/

The same company also does 35mm transfers: http://www.dvfilm.com/faq.htm

On the Mac you might take a look at Graeme Nattress' Film Effects:

http://www.nattress.com/filmEffects.htm

You can download free trials of both these packages and see what you thing for yourself.

January 19th, 2006, 10:38 PM

Thank you Don!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Don Donatello

it will be progressive but you loose a little in the 60i to 24p conversion

How much?

Will it be relevant? Where?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Don Donatello

"Will it imply resolution losses like vertical one, for instance?"

there is always resolution lost .. less or more depends on method used to create the progressive

Only vertical resolution losses?

What's the better method?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Don Donatello

"What is the best editing solution to achieve the best progressive workflow with film-look from an interlaced stream? What is the best affordable software provider?"

most tape to film transfer houses have their own software/hardware methods... for home use a few years ago there was a test done on different ways .. i believe using 2 of "revisions" plug ins came out the best.

What are they?

January 19th, 2006, 10:40 PM

Thank you Boyd!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boyd Ostroff

You don't mention what computer platform you use.

I must need to buy a new computer and I will go where this operation will be better! Any suggestion, please?

Will it be better to go to PC where I can have the DVfilm Maker?

Or Graeme Nattress' Film Effects has better results?

Don Donatello · January 20th, 2006, 10:11 PM

http://www.lafcpug.org/feature_video_film.html

January 21st, 2006, 02:21 AM

Thank you for the helpful link, I will check out!

David Andrews · January 21st, 2006, 06:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leuname Ereh

Is it possible to get good progressive at post from an interlaced footage? Equal to a native progressive shooting?

Or to go to 24p or 25p from 60i/50i isn't it the same that shooting progressive? What can we count? The results will be below? Not so progressive or film-like?

Will it imply resolution losses like vertical one, for instance?

What is the best editing solution to achieve the best progressive workflow with film-look from an interlaced stream? What is the best affordable software provider?

Acceptable to 35mm film-out?

My suggestion is to post this question on the Canopus forum. You will need to register and go to the Edius forum to get to the right audience for your question. There are people there working with HDV and HD professionally who may be able to answer your question.

Edius, and ProCoderExpress that is bundled with it, can do the conversion to and from HDV Type 1 and 2 and HD formats. As to whether it will do it to a 35mm film out standard, I have no idea.

January 21st, 2006, 09:07 PM

Thank you for the tip!

Graham Hickling · January 22nd, 2006, 03:08 AM

Just FYI, I notice that Coplan's review didn't include Magic Bullet: http://www.redgiantsoftware.com/magbulsuit.html

MB is very, very good ... certainly better than Procoder which I use .... but also very slow and probably not what you would call "affordable" ($800).

January 19th, 2006, 01:42 AM	#1
Guest Posts: n/a	interlaced to progressive Is it possible to get good progressive at post from an interlaced footage? Equal to a native progressive shooting? Or to go to 24p or 25p from 60i/50i isn't it the same that shooting progressive? What can we count? The results will be below? Not so progressive or film-like? Will it imply resolution losses like vertical one, for instance? What is the best editing solution to achieve the best progressive workflow with film-look from an interlaced stream? What is the best affordable software provider? Acceptable to 35mm film-out? Last edited by Guest; January 19th, 2006 at 05:07 AM.

January 19th, 2006, 08:44 PM	#2
Don Donatello Hawaiian Shirt Mogul Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: northern cailfornia Posts: 1,261	"Is it possible to get good progressive at post from an interlaced footage? Equal to a native progressive shooting?" NO not equal "Or to go to 24p or 25p from 60i/50i isn't it the same that shooting progressive? What can we count? The results will be below? Not so progressive or film-like?" it will be progressive but you loose a little in the 60i to 24p conversion "Will it imply resolution losses like vertical one, for instance?" there is always resolution lost .. less or more depends on method used to create the progressive "What is the best editing solution to achieve the best progressive workflow with film-look from an interlaced stream? What is the best affordable software provider?" most tape to film transfer houses have their own software/hardware methods... for home use a few years ago there was a test done on different ways .. i believe using 2 of "revisions" plug ins came out the best. "Acceptable to 35mm film-out?" Yes !! until the panasonic dvx 100 came out all video had to be 60i to 24p converted .. orginal 4:2:2 media has excellent results .. DVX has very good results ,, DV good .... but it all is dependent on how it's lit, exposed etc

January 19th, 2006, 08:51 PM	#3
Boyd Ostroff Wrangler Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mays Landing, NJ Posts: 11,802	You don't mention what computer platform you use. DVfilm Maker runs under both Windows and MacOSX: http://www.dvfilm.com/maker/ The same company also does 35mm transfers: http://www.dvfilm.com/faq.htm On the Mac you might take a look at Graeme Nattress' Film Effects: http://www.nattress.com/filmEffects.htm You can download free trials of both these packages and see what you thing for yourself.

January 20th, 2006, 10:11 PM	#6
Don Donatello Hawaiian Shirt Mogul Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: northern cailfornia Posts: 1,261	http://www.lafcpug.org/feature_video_film.html

January 21st, 2006, 02:21 AM	#7
Guest Posts: n/a	Thank you for the helpful link, I will check out!

January 21st, 2006, 09:07 PM	#9
Guest Posts: n/a	Thank you for the tip!

January 22nd, 2006, 03:08 AM	#10
Graham Hickling Trustee Join Date: May 2004 Location: Knoxville, Tennessee Posts: 1,669	Just FYI, I notice that Coplan's review didn't include Magic Bullet: http://www.redgiantsoftware.com/magbulsuit.html MB is very, very good ... certainly better than Procoder which I use .... but also very slow and probably not what you would call "affordable" ($800).