True 1080p monitor & codec solution at DVinfo.net

Stephen van Vuuren · August 21st, 2005, 08:03 PM

I'm working on project with footage 1080p 24fps (23.97 actually) created in Adobe After Effects and brought into Vegas 6 for editing.

Issue is that I need someone of playing back and monitoring the footage in full-time, especially for color correction.

What solutions are there for true 1080p playback (on the PC) and display accurate enough for color correction without mortaging a house?

I know people are using Dell and Apple LCD as well as consumer sets but I can't believe these are either accurate or fast enough for CRT like color and motion response. And consumer sets would lack any way to accurately calibrate.

Plus, I cannot find a pro LCD or plasma that is 1080p native nor a PC codec that runs 1080p in realtime (unless you compress it H.264 or Windows Media HD first).

Any pointers appreciated.

Steven Gotz · August 21st, 2005, 09:35 PM

The new 1080p televisions are available. I saw one this morning from Samsung.

http://product.samsung.com/cgi-bin/n...LR5078WX%2fXAA

Stephen van Vuuren · August 21st, 2005, 09:41 PM

I've just been on Sony's and Samsung's site looking at these but can't figure how which input actually takes a 1080p signal - still reading the Sony SXDR manual right now.

Betsy Moore · August 23rd, 2005, 12:09 PM

I've seen the 1080p tvs at one of the local shops in LA and boy, I don't know if it's the programming or what but the improvements are subtle to the point of negligible. I'd like to see them again and I don't know what spectacular jump in quality I thought I was going to get but for the time being it's not spectacular.

Stephen van Vuuren · August 23rd, 2005, 12:22 PM

After talking to some ISF calibration engineers it turns out none of the current Samsung, Sony or Mitsubishi sets can be used as true 1080p display devices with 1:1 pixel mapping. The Sony's might yet but the manual indicates HDMI input only does 1080i and the VGA input takes only 1024X1024.

The Samsung image does not have the full pixel count nor does the Mitsubishi though it still is a matter of debate.

I think an LCD is my only shot, probably the Dell.

Per codec, I have found a possible solution using Gearshift from VASST. I can keep my 1080p originals uncompressed and used Gearshift proxies for editing in Vegas. Still testing, but I think it will work.

August 21st, 2005, 08:03 PM	#1
Stephen van Vuuren Space Hipster Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Greensboro, NC Posts: 1,508	True 1080p monitor & codec solution I'm working on project with footage 1080p 24fps (23.97 actually) created in Adobe After Effects and brought into Vegas 6 for editing. Issue is that I need someone of playing back and monitoring the footage in full-time, especially for color correction. What solutions are there for true 1080p playback (on the PC) and display accurate enough for color correction without mortaging a house? I know people are using Dell and Apple LCD as well as consumer sets but I can't believe these are either accurate or fast enough for CRT like color and motion response. And consumer sets would lack any way to accurately calibrate. Plus, I cannot find a pro LCD or plasma that is 1080p native nor a PC codec that runs 1080p in realtime (unless you compress it H.264 or Windows Media HD first). Any pointers appreciated. __________________ stephen v2 www.insaturnsrings.com

August 21st, 2005, 09:35 PM	#2
Steven Gotz Trustee Join Date: May 2002 Location: Clermont, FL Posts: 1,520	The new 1080p televisions are available. I saw one this morning from Samsung. http://product.samsung.com/cgi-bin/n...LR5078WX%2fXAA __________________ Steven Gotz http://www.stevengotz.com

August 21st, 2005, 09:41 PM	#3
Stephen van Vuuren Space Hipster Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Greensboro, NC Posts: 1,508	I've just been on Sony's and Samsung's site looking at these but can't figure how which input actually takes a 1080p signal - still reading the Sony SXDR manual right now. __________________ stephen v2 www.insaturnsrings.com

August 23rd, 2005, 12:22 PM	#5
Stephen van Vuuren Space Hipster Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Greensboro, NC Posts: 1,508	After talking to some ISF calibration engineers it turns out none of the current Samsung, Sony or Mitsubishi sets can be used as true 1080p display devices with 1:1 pixel mapping. The Sony's might yet but the manual indicates HDMI input only does 1080i and the VGA input takes only 1024X1024. The Samsung image does not have the full pixel count nor does the Mitsubishi though it still is a matter of debate. I think an LCD is my only shot, probably the Dell. Per codec, I have found a possible solution using Gearshift from VASST. I can keep my 1080p originals uncompressed and used Gearshift proxies for editing in Vegas. Still testing, but I think it will work. __________________ stephen v2 www.insaturnsrings.com

August 23rd, 2005, 12:09 PM	#4
Betsy Moore Major Player Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 444	I've seen the 1080p tvs at one of the local shops in LA and boy, I don't know if it's the programming or what but the improvements are subtle to the point of negligible. I'd like to see them again and I don't know what spectacular jump in quality I thought I was going to get but for the time being it's not spectacular.