Please Jump on Apple at DVinfo.net

Lee Maisel · March 6th, 2005, 12:29 PM

Can everyone who has teh HDR-FX1 light a fire under Apple?

I bought mine, and have Final Cut Pro, then upgr4aded to FCP HD and find NO SUPPORT!!!

Darrell Essex · March 6th, 2005, 01:18 PM

right now, you will have to buy ilife 5 to get imovie hd.
the big hold up seems to be fcp5 hd needs quicktime 7 and tiger operating sys. to work. we will have to wait until their finished.

Christopher C. Murphy · March 6th, 2005, 01:43 PM

I've already written to them 10 times.

Douglas Spotted Eagle · March 6th, 2005, 02:25 PM

repeat after me....
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Sean M Lee · March 6th, 2005, 03:16 PM

<<<-- Originally posted by Douglas Spotted Eagle : repeat after me....
NAB
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It's getting closer and closer! This is the year of HDV at NAB.

Filip Kovcin · March 6th, 2005, 06:56 PM

i will try this way:

NAB...........NAB...NABNABNAB......NAB............NAB
NAB...........NAB...NAB........NAB....NAB...........NAB
NAB...........NAB...NAB.........NAB....NAB..........NAB
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NAB...........NAB...NAB.........NAB......NAB.......NAB
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ignore the dots...

i beleive THIS is NOT off topic - since we are "talking" about NAB and HDV?
:))))

filip

Jared VanLeuven · March 6th, 2005, 10:36 PM

I'm going this year (whoo!) and registered for the free exhibit pass (VIP pass). For those of you who've attended in years past, am I going to be able to see the bulk of our favorites (Apple, Sony, Chrosziel, et al) with the freebie pass, or should I pay more for the regular exhibits pass? Thanks mucho.

Chris Hurd · March 7th, 2005, 12:05 AM

The free pass will get you into the halls to see all of the exhibits. See our NAB2005 thread for more info.

Heath McKnight · March 7th, 2005, 03:18 PM

Filip,

That was clever.

FCP HD was something that came out last year, but no HDV support, obviously.

heath

Kevin Shaw · March 7th, 2005, 10:21 PM

<<<It's getting closer and closer! This is the year of HDV at NAB. >>>

That's funny, since many of us thought that was going to happen last year. Actually, the big news at this year's NAB will probably be the Panasonic DVCProHD camera, which presumably won't ship for a while afterwards. And we're still waiting on blu-ray players, which apparently won't be out until near the end of the year. So maybe *next year* will finally be the year of full-blown, low cost HD production.

:-)

Filip Kovcin · March 8th, 2005, 01:17 AM

does anyone remembers last years prediction and rumours?
what is reality now - comparing to what we thought?

filip

Kevin Shaw · March 8th, 2005, 08:34 AM

<<<does anyone remembers last years prediction and rumours?
what is reality now - comparing to what we thought?>>>

Last year some of us expected to see many new HDV cameras at NAB, and in the end there was just the one Sony prototype--which seemed to be downplayed at the time but has turned out to be one of the most significant camcorders ever introduced. This year it sure looks like the Panasonic DVCProHD camera is going to be the hot topic, with any HDV announcements playing second fiddle to the buzz about that.

But note that what was shown at NAB last year didn't ship until November and is only just now becoming widely used, so I wouldn't be too hopeful for anything different in that regard this year. By this time next year HDV will be firmly entrenched as a widespread "prosumer" video format, while DVCProHD will be getting heaps of praise from independent film-makers, etc. But until we get affordable mainstream HD-DVD players, all of this means little to most consumers, so it really won't be until next year that the whole HD thing bursts wide open.

Simon Harris · March 8th, 2005, 01:53 PM

Don't hold your breath, in my past experience Apple take a long time to get their act together. I used to keep buying new versions of FCP only to find that the one feature I upgraded to get was so poorly implemented it was a waste of time and then 2 versions later it would mysteriously work great. Don't expect decent HDV functionality in the next version of Final Cut Pro, if iMovie (compression artifacts and horrible workflow) is any indication it will not be what you are expecting, If you need HDV implementation with FCP now buy Lumiere and suffer the long winded workflow - at least you will be editing in native (ie: offlline/online) resolution and you can get the job done. Simon Harris

Chris Hurd · March 9th, 2005, 09:20 AM

I have pruned some vulgarity off of the end of this thread. Please keep it clean around here, fellows. Thanks,

Mark Kubat · March 14th, 2005, 11:18 PM

trying to sound positive here - the Bluray/Apple news seems to bode well, doesn't it?

For both Sony and Apple...

Sure, Panasonic + Apple seems tighter...

since this is turning into a "oooh, can't wait till NAB" thread, I'll say that right now, the new JVC has got me more excited than the Panasonic...

Man, I just can't believe they're charging so much for "only" 720...

I hope the new products are closer to Z1 price than $10K....

March 6th, 2005, 12:29 PM	#1
Lee Maisel Tourist Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Albuquerque, NM 87110 Posts: 4	Please Jump on Apple Can everyone who has teh HDR-FX1 light a fire under Apple? I bought mine, and have Final Cut Pro, then upgr4aded to FCP HD and find NO SUPPORT!!!

March 6th, 2005, 01:18 PM	#2
Darrell Essex Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: kelseyville, ca Posts: 123	right now, you will have to buy ilife 5 to get imovie hd. the big hold up seems to be fcp5 hd needs quicktime 7 and tiger operating sys. to work. we will have to wait until their finished. __________________ darrell

March 6th, 2005, 01:43 PM	#3
Christopher C. Murphy Trustee Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 1,707	I've already written to them 10 times. __________________ Christopher C. Murphy Director, Producer, Writer

March 6th, 2005, 02:25 PM	#4
Douglas Spotted Eagle VASST Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Stockton, UT Posts: 5,648	repeat after me.... NAB NAB NAB NAB NAB NAB NAB __________________ Douglas Spotted Eagle/Spot Author, producer, composer Certified Sony Vegas Trainer http://www.vasst.com

March 6th, 2005, 06:56 PM	#6
Filip Kovcin Major Player Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: warsaw, poland Posts: 440	i will try this way: NAB...........NAB...NABNABNAB......NAB............NAB NAB...........NAB...NAB........NAB....NAB...........NAB NAB...........NAB...NAB.........NAB....NAB..........NAB NABNABNABNAB...NAB..........NAB.....NAB........NAB NAB...........NAB...NAB.........NAB......NAB.......NAB NAB...........NAB...NAB........NAB........NAB.....NAB NAB...........NAB...NABNABNAB.............NABNAB ignore the dots... i beleive THIS is NOT off topic - since we are "talking" about NAB and HDV? :)))) filip __________________ in kino (sic!) veritas

March 6th, 2005, 03:16 PM	#5
Sean M Lee Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Indy Posts: 160	<<<-- Originally posted by Douglas Spotted Eagle : repeat after me.... NAB NAB NAB NAB NAB NAB NAB -->>> It's getting closer and closer! This is the year of HDV at NAB.

March 6th, 2005, 10:36 PM	#7
Jared VanLeuven New Boot Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 21	NAB - The Exhibits I'm going this year (whoo!) and registered for the free exhibit pass (VIP pass). For those of you who've attended in years past, am I going to be able to see the bulk of our favorites (Apple, Sony, Chrosziel, et al) with the freebie pass, or should I pay more for the regular exhibits pass? Thanks mucho.

March 7th, 2005, 12:05 AM	#8
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,368 Images: 513	The free pass will get you into the halls to see all of the exhibits. See our NAB2005 thread for more info. __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

March 7th, 2005, 03:18 PM	#9
Heath McKnight MPS Digital Studios Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Palm Beach County, Florida Posts: 8,531	Filip, That was clever. FCP HD was something that came out last year, but no HDV support, obviously. heath __________________ My Final Cut Pro X blog

March 7th, 2005, 10:21 PM	#10
Kevin Shaw Inner Circle Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 2,488	<<<It's getting closer and closer! This is the year of HDV at NAB. >>> That's funny, since many of us thought that was going to happen last year. Actually, the big news at this year's NAB will probably be the Panasonic DVCProHD camera, which presumably won't ship for a while afterwards. And we're still waiting on blu-ray players, which apparently won't be out until near the end of the year. So maybe next year will finally be the year of full-blown, low cost HD production. :-)

March 8th, 2005, 01:17 AM	#11
Filip Kovcin Major Player Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: warsaw, poland Posts: 440	does anyone remembers last years prediction and rumours? what is reality now - comparing to what we thought? filip __________________ in kino (sic!) veritas

March 8th, 2005, 08:34 AM	#12
Kevin Shaw Inner Circle Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 2,488	<<<does anyone remembers last years prediction and rumours? what is reality now - comparing to what we thought?>>> Last year some of us expected to see many new HDV cameras at NAB, and in the end there was just the one Sony prototype--which seemed to be downplayed at the time but has turned out to be one of the most significant camcorders ever introduced. This year it sure looks like the Panasonic DVCProHD camera is going to be the hot topic, with any HDV announcements playing second fiddle to the buzz about that. But note that what was shown at NAB last year didn't ship until November and is only just now becoming widely used, so I wouldn't be too hopeful for anything different in that regard this year. By this time next year HDV will be firmly entrenched as a widespread "prosumer" video format, while DVCProHD will be getting heaps of praise from independent film-makers, etc. But until we get affordable mainstream HD-DVD players, all of this means little to most consumers, so it really won't be until next year that the whole HD thing bursts wide open.

March 8th, 2005, 01:53 PM	#13
Simon Harris New Boot Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: London UK Posts: 23	Don't hold your breath, in my past experience Apple take a long time to get their act together. I used to keep buying new versions of FCP only to find that the one feature I upgraded to get was so poorly implemented it was a waste of time and then 2 versions later it would mysteriously work great. Don't expect decent HDV functionality in the next version of Final Cut Pro, if iMovie (compression artifacts and horrible workflow) is any indication it will not be what you are expecting, If you need HDV implementation with FCP now buy Lumiere and suffer the long winded workflow - at least you will be editing in native (ie: offlline/online) resolution and you can get the job done. Simon Harris

March 9th, 2005, 09:20 AM	#14
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,368 Images: 513	I have pruned some vulgarity off of the end of this thread. Please keep it clean around here, fellows. Thanks, __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

March 14th, 2005, 11:18 PM	#15
Mark Kubat Major Player Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 375	well, the Bluray thing bodes well, doesn't it? trying to sound positive here - the Bluray/Apple news seems to bode well, doesn't it? For both Sony and Apple... Sure, Panasonic + Apple seems tighter... since this is turning into a "oooh, can't wait till NAB" thread, I'll say that right now, the new JVC has got me more excited than the Panasonic... Man, I just can't believe they're charging so much for "only" 720... I hope the new products are closer to Z1 price than $10K....