How does the Microsoft wmvHD format look on a real HDTV? at DVinfo.net

Brent Marks · January 4th, 2005, 01:42 AM

Has anyone tried this yet???

thanks

Steve Crisdale · January 4th, 2005, 03:04 AM

<<<-- Originally posted by Brent Marks : Has anyone tried this yet???

thanks -->>>

Probably only people with an Avel Linkplayer 2 will be able to answer that question...

I've got a Roku 1000 which'll play HD mpeg2 but not wmv.....

Kevin Shaw · January 4th, 2005, 12:25 PM

<<<Probably only people with an Avel Linkplayer 2 will be able to answer that question...>>>

Or anyone with an "HTPC" connected to their HDTV. I was in Costco last week and saw WMV-HD samples being played on their smaller LCD HDTV screens, and that looked very nice. I couldn't tell how they were streaming the samples or what resolution and bit rate was used, but it was working.

I may have time next month to start experimenting with stuff like this, but haven't got all the necessary components yet. I can say that WMV-HD samples from the web encoded at a mere 5 Mbps look good on a computer monitor compared to typical DV/DVD footage, so I would expect to see the same when playing to an HDTV. And if you boost the bit rate 50% higher to 7.5 Mbps you should get a corresponding increase in quality, so even the 5 Mbps samples are arguably weak compared to what we can expect at DVD data rates.

Sean Woods · January 4th, 2005, 01:58 PM

A company in Germany has WM-HD DVDs that aren't sold here in the states. Features like Underworld, Italian Job, Gangs of New York, Tomb Raider, etc.

http://www.high-def.de/

I've heard folks have been able to buy them off Amazon.de so if you're looking for something different for WM9 other than T2 and what microsoft has to offer that might be the way to go.

David Kennett · January 4th, 2005, 03:36 PM

Brent,

I have a Samsung HLN 5065W 50" DLP with home theater PC. I did it to play m2t (HDV) files from my JVC HD10. I play those, as well as WMV and transport stream files captured from DVHS VCR. My connection is DVI, and the video board recognizes the 1280 x 720 res of the DLP. I think it looks better than the VGA connection on my regular PC - which of course has a much smaller monitor. To me it was well worth it. You need a powerhouse PC though!

George Ellis · January 5th, 2005, 12:57 PM

We setup a PC with a ATI X800 Pro using DVI into a 46" 1080 Iiyama LCD and ran the WMV-HD 1080p demo files. Just wow.

Working on setting that machine up again with XP Media Center Edition 2005 and an old Hauppauge TV tuner card. Still have those WMV-HD files and some MPEG HD content to test with :D

Dan Euritt · January 5th, 2005, 08:38 PM

my neighbor has the same samsung dlp, and the wmv-hd demos look pristine on it! and that's thru the external vga port of a laptop... the digital inputs to the tv would look even better.

Troy Lamont · January 6th, 2005, 11:39 AM

I have the HD1 and I've converted a lot of footage to WMV and it looks great!

I also have Terminator 2 in WMV 1080p format that looks spectacular as well as various other HD clips in WMV.

Troy

John Gaspain · January 13th, 2005, 10:43 AM

<<<-- Originally posted by George Ellis : We setup a PC with a ATI X800 Pro using DVI into a 46" 1080 Iiyama LCD and ran the WMV-HD 1080p demo files. Just wow.

Working on setting that machine up again with XP Media Center Edition 2005 and an old Hauppauge TV tuner card. Still have those WMV-HD files and some MPEG HD content to test with :D -->>>

Media center edition doesnt recognize Hauppauge cards as compatible hardware...Hauppauge doesnt make wdm drivers that are cross compatible.

If you must use Media cent edition- Try an ATI TV tuner card...matter of fact they have a new HD tuner card on the market now.

Oh yea- media center edition is a bloated piece of junk that serves no real purpose, its just MS trying to make a buck on all bases trying to incorporate TV on the PC- which is something ATI and Hauppauge have been doing for years. IMHO

January 4th, 2005, 01:42 AM	#1
Brent Marks Major Player Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Houston TX and New Orleans LA Posts: 300	How does the Microsoft wmvHD format look on a real HDTV? Has anyone tried this yet??? thanks

January 4th, 2005, 03:04 AM	#2
Steve Crisdale Major Player Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Katoomba NSW Australia Posts: 635	Re: How does the Microsoft wmvHD format look on a real HDTV? <<<-- Originally posted by Brent Marks : Has anyone tried this yet??? thanks -->>> Probably only people with an Avel Linkplayer 2 will be able to answer that question... I've got a Roku 1000 which'll play HD mpeg2 but not wmv.....

January 4th, 2005, 12:25 PM	#3
Kevin Shaw Inner Circle Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 2,488	Re: Re: How does the Microsoft wmvHD format look on a real HDTV? <<<Probably only people with an Avel Linkplayer 2 will be able to answer that question...>>> Or anyone with an "HTPC" connected to their HDTV. I was in Costco last week and saw WMV-HD samples being played on their smaller LCD HDTV screens, and that looked very nice. I couldn't tell how they were streaming the samples or what resolution and bit rate was used, but it was working. I may have time next month to start experimenting with stuff like this, but haven't got all the necessary components yet. I can say that WMV-HD samples from the web encoded at a mere 5 Mbps look good on a computer monitor compared to typical DV/DVD footage, so I would expect to see the same when playing to an HDTV. And if you boost the bit rate 50% higher to 7.5 Mbps you should get a corresponding increase in quality, so even the 5 Mbps samples are arguably weak compared to what we can expect at DVD data rates.

January 4th, 2005, 01:58 PM	#4
Sean Woods Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 50	If anyone is interested A company in Germany has WM-HD DVDs that aren't sold here in the states. Features like Underworld, Italian Job, Gangs of New York, Tomb Raider, etc. http://www.high-def.de/ I've heard folks have been able to buy them off Amazon.de so if you're looking for something different for WM9 other than T2 and what microsoft has to offer that might be the way to go.

January 4th, 2005, 03:36 PM	#5
David Kennett Major Player Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: North Ridgeville, Ohio Posts: 407	Brent, I have a Samsung HLN 5065W 50" DLP with home theater PC. I did it to play m2t (HDV) files from my JVC HD10. I play those, as well as WMV and transport stream files captured from DVHS VCR. My connection is DVI, and the video board recognizes the 1280 x 720 res of the DLP. I think it looks better than the VGA connection on my regular PC - which of course has a much smaller monitor. To me it was well worth it. You need a powerhouse PC though! __________________ Dave

January 5th, 2005, 12:57 PM	#6
George Ellis Trustee Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Suwanee, GA Posts: 1,241	We setup a PC with a ATI X800 Pro using DVI into a 46" 1080 Iiyama LCD and ran the WMV-HD 1080p demo files. Just wow. Working on setting that machine up again with XP Media Center Edition 2005 and an old Hauppauge TV tuner card. Still have those WMV-HD files and some MPEG HD content to test with :D

January 5th, 2005, 08:38 PM	#7
Dan Euritt Trustee Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Carlsbad CA Posts: 1,132	my neighbor has the same samsung dlp, and the wmv-hd demos look pristine on it! and that's thru the external vga port of a laptop... the digital inputs to the tv would look even better.

January 6th, 2005, 11:39 AM	#8
Troy Lamont Major Player Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Studio City, CA Posts: 236	I have! I have the HD1 and I've converted a lot of footage to WMV and it looks great! I also have Terminator 2 in WMV 1080p format that looks spectacular as well as various other HD clips in WMV. Troy

January 13th, 2005, 10:43 AM	#9
John Gaspain Major Player Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: WA-USA Posts: 371	<<<-- Originally posted by George Ellis : We setup a PC with a ATI X800 Pro using DVI into a 46" 1080 Iiyama LCD and ran the WMV-HD 1080p demo files. Just wow. Working on setting that machine up again with XP Media Center Edition 2005 and an old Hauppauge TV tuner card. Still have those WMV-HD files and some MPEG HD content to test with :D -->>> Media center edition doesnt recognize Hauppauge cards as compatible hardware...Hauppauge doesnt make wdm drivers that are cross compatible. If you must use Media cent edition- Try an ATI TV tuner card...matter of fact they have a new HD tuner card on the market now. Oh yea- media center edition is a bloated piece of junk that serves no real purpose, its just MS trying to make a buck on all bases trying to incorporate TV on the PC- which is something ATI and Hauppauge have been doing for years. IMHO __________________ The glory of the World passes by.