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Steven Galvano · August 2nd, 2004, 03:33 PM

Is there any?
Any coming soon?
Any new Apple gossip?

Thanks!

Steven

Lynne Whelden · August 2nd, 2004, 07:58 PM

Yes, the folks that brought you the Casablanca and ushered in the editing appliance revolution will be introducing the HDV capable "Solitaire" in about two weeks.
Steve Jobs is recovering from pancreatic cancer. Apple stock took a big hit on the news.

Frederic Lumiere · August 11th, 2004, 08:47 PM

Lynne,

Recovering is the key word. Looks like he'll be fine which is a big releif for all Job addict...I mean Mac addicts

Looks like the stock has recovered as well. Some people made some nice money on Apple stock (day traders) in early July.

Boyd Ostroff · August 11th, 2004, 09:18 PM

I've done quite well without any day trading, after years of being in the red. Did you notice that Steve made Fortune's list of the 25 most powerful people in Business?

Quote:

2004
MOST POWERFUL PEOPLE IN BUSINESS
Rank: 24
Steve Jobs
Company: Apple, Pixar
Title: CEO
Age: 49
Previous rank: N.A.
Why does everybody watch Steve Jobs? It's not because of Apple's market share, less than 2% of the global desktop computer market, or its revenues, $6 billion last year—less than a fifth of what flowed into Microsoft's treasury. It's the force of his ideas. No longer just a creator of trendsetting computers and software, Jobs is transforming the music and movie industries. He persuaded wary record companies to sell music on his iTunes Music Store, and a great many of the 100 million songs sold so far are playing on iPods. As CEO of Pixar, he's made a string of influential blockbusters like Finding Nemo, the highest-grossing animated film ever. (Pixar's next film, The Incredibles, is due to come out this fall.) Jobs showed his Hollywood power when he refused to extend Pixar's distribution contract with Disney, and he's now shopping around for a more lucrative deal. —Devin Leonard

Heath McKnight · August 11th, 2004, 10:07 PM

Apple's at 2% market share? Ouch. It was 4% just two or three years ago. Curses, Dell!

I'm not a big fan of edit appliances, but if it works, GO FOR IT!

heath

David Newman · August 12th, 2004, 09:48 AM

You publicity isn't helping when it includes quotes demonstrating that this new platform isn't ready for HDV and the technical staff have no knowledge of the nature of chroma noise (which is not a JVC bug.) This sounds like things are a way off for Macrosystems, although as this product seems more like a PC than ever (maybe no more C-Cube hardware) their development cycles should be a little shorter than their track record would predict.

Lynne Whelden · August 12th, 2004, 05:36 PM

Which goes to show that I don't have any hidden agenda. Frankly, I like straight-forward editing appliances. (I own your ScreenPlay appliance! Bought it back in the days when it was, what, $5000?) I would like to see the Solitaire become a success because I firmly believe that until that happens, HDV is going to remain in the domain of PC and Mac techies and may thus ultimately falter as a viable format. My mantra is "HD for the masses." The state of the HD union right now is "HD for the techies."

Ken Hodson · August 18th, 2004, 12:40 PM

I would say it's currently "editing for the reasonably bright", especially on the PC side with AspectHD.
Get a WinXP PC, install AspectHD Adobe bundle, done.
Keep it unpluged from the net.
Use the included training materials.
If ones still on the shy side, get a book/video/night course on Premiere Pro.
Upgrade in the future as needed (more HDD ect..)

Lynne Whelden · August 18th, 2004, 01:31 PM

Can you be more specific about the sort of computer? Could it be something Wal-Mart offers, for example? And what's the best book (eg. Premiere for Dummies???) that cuts to the chase and reduces editing down to its BARE essentials in 25 pages or less? Ok, 50 pages.

Steve Crisdale · August 18th, 2004, 07:21 PM

<<<-- Originally posted by Lynne Whelden : Can you be more specific about the sort of computer? Could it be something Wal-Mart offers, for example? And what's the best book (eg. Premiere for Dummies???) that cuts to the chase and reduces editing down to its BARE essentials in 25 pages or less? Ok, 50 pages. -->>>
If Wal-Mart offers reasonably priced P-IV 3.2Ghz with 800Mhz FSB, SATA RAID with 7,200rpm HD of at least 120Gig with at least 512meg of decent RAM and a good AGP card then that'd be what you're after.....Oh, a good monitor capable of displaying HD rez clips as well.... There are some really good Widescreen TFTs available now that'll show 720p footage just perfect.

There's heaps of Premiere 'how to' books out there....the one that's right for you might just involve a flip through from cover to cover just to get a 'feel' of the information within. Premiere has, like all Adobe products, a very respectable Help file with plenty of tutorials that make basic processes easy enough to understand and execute.

My own personal preference for HD NLE is Sony Vegas. BTW, your query about Avisynth filters for chroma noise reduction elsewhere.....Both Vegas and Premiere have the capacity of using Avisynth plug-ins for chrome noise reduction. You'll just have to do some Google searches to find what's out there......

Graham Hickling · August 18th, 2004, 08:22 PM

"Both Vegas and Premiere have the capacity of using Avisynth plug-ins .... "

Really??? As internal plugins, or by loading avs scripts, or how?

This sounds v. promising ....

Heath McKnight · August 18th, 2004, 09:58 PM

Antony Bolante writes some good ones. I have to give a plug to my co-producer/music scorer's friend (Bolante), as they went to school together. his books have always been really good.

heath

August 2nd, 2004, 03:33 PM	#1
Steven Galvano Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Rochester, New York Posts: 109	Other HDV solutions Is there any? Any coming soon? Any new Apple gossip? Thanks! Steven

August 2nd, 2004, 07:58 PM	#2
Lynne Whelden Major Player Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: williamsport, pa Posts: 604	Solitaire Yes, the folks that brought you the Casablanca and ushered in the editing appliance revolution will be introducing the HDV capable "Solitaire" in about two weeks. Steve Jobs is recovering from pancreatic cancer. Apple stock took a big hit on the news.

August 11th, 2004, 10:07 PM	#5
Heath McKnight MPS Digital Studios Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Palm Beach County, Florida Posts: 8,531	Apple's at 2% market share? Ouch. It was 4% just two or three years ago. Curses, Dell! I'm not a big fan of edit appliances, but if it works, GO FOR IT! heath __________________ My Final Cut Pro X blog

August 12th, 2004, 09:48 AM	#6
David Newman CTO, CineForm Inc. Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Cardiff-by-the-Sea, California Posts: 8,095	You publicity isn't helping when it includes quotes demonstrating that this new platform isn't ready for HDV and the technical staff have no knowledge of the nature of chroma noise (which is not a JVC bug.) This sounds like things are a way off for Macrosystems, although as this product seems more like a PC than ever (maybe no more C-Cube hardware) their development cycles should be a little shorter than their track record would predict. __________________ David Newman -- web: www.gopro.com blog: cineform.blogspot.com -- twitter: twitter.com/David_Newman

August 12th, 2004, 05:36 PM	#7
Lynne Whelden Major Player Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: williamsport, pa Posts: 604	A case for honesty... Which goes to show that I don't have any hidden agenda. Frankly, I like straight-forward editing appliances. (I own your ScreenPlay appliance! Bought it back in the days when it was, what, $5000?) I would like to see the Solitaire become a success because I firmly believe that until that happens, HDV is going to remain in the domain of PC and Mac techies and may thus ultimately falter as a viable format. My mantra is "HD for the masses." The state of the HD union right now is "HD for the techies."

August 11th, 2004, 08:47 PM	#3
Frederic Lumiere Wrangler Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Point Pleasant, NJ Posts: 437	Lynne, Recovering is the key word. Looks like he'll be fine which is a big releif for all Job addict...I mean Mac addicts Looks like the stock has recovered as well. Some people made some nice money on Apple stock (day traders) in early July.

August 18th, 2004, 12:40 PM	#8
Ken Hodson Trustee Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Vancouver BC Canada Posts: 1,315	I would say it's currently "editing for the reasonably bright", especially on the PC side with AspectHD. Get a WinXP PC, install AspectHD Adobe bundle, done. Keep it unpluged from the net. Use the included training materials. If ones still on the shy side, get a book/video/night course on Premiere Pro. Upgrade in the future as needed (more HDD ect..) __________________ Damnit Jim, I'm a film maker not a sysytems tech.

August 18th, 2004, 01:31 PM	#9
Lynne Whelden Major Player Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: williamsport, pa Posts: 604	Can you be more specific about the sort of computer? Could it be something Wal-Mart offers, for example? And what's the best book (eg. Premiere for Dummies???) that cuts to the chase and reduces editing down to its BARE essentials in 25 pages or less? Ok, 50 pages.

August 18th, 2004, 07:21 PM	#10
Steve Crisdale Major Player Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Katoomba NSW Australia Posts: 635	<<<-- Originally posted by Lynne Whelden : Can you be more specific about the sort of computer? Could it be something Wal-Mart offers, for example? And what's the best book (eg. Premiere for Dummies???) that cuts to the chase and reduces editing down to its BARE essentials in 25 pages or less? Ok, 50 pages. -->>> If Wal-Mart offers reasonably priced P-IV 3.2Ghz with 800Mhz FSB, SATA RAID with 7,200rpm HD of at least 120Gig with at least 512meg of decent RAM and a good AGP card then that'd be what you're after.....Oh, a good monitor capable of displaying HD rez clips as well.... There are some really good Widescreen TFTs available now that'll show 720p footage just perfect. There's heaps of Premiere 'how to' books out there....the one that's right for you might just involve a flip through from cover to cover just to get a 'feel' of the information within. Premiere has, like all Adobe products, a very respectable Help file with plenty of tutorials that make basic processes easy enough to understand and execute. My own personal preference for HD NLE is Sony Vegas. BTW, your query about Avisynth filters for chroma noise reduction elsewhere.....Both Vegas and Premiere have the capacity of using Avisynth plug-ins for chrome noise reduction. You'll just have to do some Google searches to find what's out there......

August 18th, 2004, 08:22 PM	#11
Graham Hickling Trustee Join Date: May 2004 Location: Knoxville, Tennessee Posts: 1,669	"Both Vegas and Premiere have the capacity of using Avisynth plug-ins .... " Really??? As internal plugins, or by loading avs scripts, or how? This sounds v. promising ....

August 18th, 2004, 09:58 PM	#12
Heath McKnight MPS Digital Studios Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Palm Beach County, Florida Posts: 8,531	Antony Bolante writes some good ones. I have to give a plug to my co-producer/music scorer's friend (Bolante), as they went to school together. his books have always been really good. heath __________________ My Final Cut Pro X blog