DVHS JVC decks differences? at DVinfo.net

Heath McKnight · December 31st, 2003, 06:51 PM

I'm checking out the differences at JVC's site, but to be honest, it seems the same. Except one thing:

The HMDH40000 has D-Theater compliant with the advanced D-VHS security system

vs.

The HM-DH30000 which doesn't have it.

Any ideas what's different?

heath

Randall Morton · January 2nd, 2004, 06:34 PM

The 40k has better quality analog record and playback, converts analog tape sound to TOSLink optical, and features DTS sound. I've also read the 40K has a new tape transport system and new decoder, but have been unable to verify that. It does have a new menu system and both firewires are on back. I have both and the 40K seems to record a bit better but they both work well. I like the front firewire port on the 30K. New 30Ks seem to be going for $450plus and the 40K for about $590 delivered. For this price difference I would get the 40K.

Evan Malter · January 5th, 2004, 11:11 AM

if the differences are only slight and you like the front firewire port - why spend an extra $140 for the 40k?

Heath McKnight · January 5th, 2004, 01:03 PM

Actually, a weirder question is why is the list price on the 30 $1299 and the 40 is $999, yet the 40 is priced HIGHER than the 30, street-wise?

heath

Evan Malter · January 5th, 2004, 01:20 PM

I noticed that too - but I just assumed that the 40K came out so much later and the cost of the technology decreased so quickly that had they created a new list price on teh 30K at the time the 40k came out - it would have been more like $800. Thats just a guess - if anyone wants to support or refute it - feel free.

Randall Morton · January 5th, 2004, 03:53 PM

I spent the extra on the 40K because it is a newer model with DTS sound capability.
The firewire is not that big a deal as you still have both, they are just on back. On the 30K one is in front and one on back. I
have only had the 40k about 2 wks and I can't really say that it works any better than the 30k for my uses. I just bought my first tape with DTS sound but have not yet played it.

James Ball · January 17th, 2004, 03:49 PM

I've read everything I can from the JVC website and apart from their appearance, I can't find a difference between the two models.

the description on the JVC web site has an identical list of features on each box, though in a different order.

does anyone have the scoop?

Rob Lohman · January 18th, 2004, 08:06 AM

James, your question has been added to this thread since it
was already talking about the difference.

James Ball · January 19th, 2004, 01:06 AM

http://www.jvc.com/product.jsp?model...L026758&page=2

I got booted over here. I didn't notice this thread.

makes sense to be here since this theread was first.

If you click on the "features" link on both units the feature sets are identical.

thanks for ironing out the differences.

My next move is to DL the manuals. Nice of JVC to make them available.

Heath McKnight · January 19th, 2004, 11:52 AM

The 40k is probably just a new model. Essentially, the XL-1 and the XL-1s are identical, minus a lot of new bells and whistles. But to me, the image on both cameras are the same.

heath

Rob Lohman · January 20th, 2004, 03:10 AM

James, try contacting JVC. They should be able to tell you what
the differences are.

Heath McKnight · January 20th, 2004, 12:24 PM

I saw a 30k deck at Sears for $400, but my friend warned me that there may not be component in/outputs.

heath

Gints Klimanis · January 20th, 2004, 02:01 PM

The 30k's feature set never included component inputs, but it does include component outputs.

Heath McKnight · January 20th, 2004, 03:19 PM

Gints,

Does the 40k have component input AND output?

heath

Gints Klimanis · January 20th, 2004, 05:05 PM

Heath,

From the spec sheets on the JVC web site, both the R3k and R4k have component out but no component in.

December 31st, 2003, 06:51 PM	#1
Heath McKnight MPS Digital Studios Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Palm Beach County, Florida Posts: 8,531	DVHS JVC decks differences? I'm checking out the differences at JVC's site, but to be honest, it seems the same. Except one thing: The HMDH40000 has D-Theater compliant with the advanced D-VHS security system vs. The HM-DH30000 which doesn't have it. Any ideas what's different? heath __________________ My Final Cut Pro X blog

January 5th, 2004, 11:11 AM	#3
Evan Malter New Boot Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 22	confused. if the differences are only slight and you like the front firewire port - why spend an extra $140 for the 40k?

January 5th, 2004, 01:03 PM	#4
Heath McKnight MPS Digital Studios Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Palm Beach County, Florida Posts: 8,531	Actually, a weirder question is why is the list price on the 30 $1299 and the 40 is $999, yet the 40 is priced HIGHER than the 30, street-wise? heath __________________ My Final Cut Pro X blog

January 17th, 2004, 03:49 PM	#7
James Ball Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Sulphur, LA Posts: 61	HD-30000U vs HD-400000U I've read everything I can from the JVC website and apart from their appearance, I can't find a difference between the two models. the description on the JVC web site has an identical list of features on each box, though in a different order. does anyone have the scoop?

January 18th, 2004, 08:06 AM	#8
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	James, your question has been added to this thread since it was already talking about the difference. __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

January 2nd, 2004, 06:34 PM	#2
Randall Morton Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Memphis, TN Posts: 39	The 40k has better quality analog record and playback, converts analog tape sound to TOSLink optical, and features DTS sound. I've also read the 40K has a new tape transport system and new decoder, but have been unable to verify that. It does have a new menu system and both firewires are on back. I have both and the 40K seems to record a bit better but they both work well. I like the front firewire port on the 30K. New 30Ks seem to be going for $450plus and the 40K for about $590 delivered. For this price difference I would get the 40K.

January 5th, 2004, 01:20 PM	#5
Evan Malter New Boot Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 22	I noticed that too - but I just assumed that the 40K came out so much later and the cost of the technology decreased so quickly that had they created a new list price on teh 30K at the time the 40k came out - it would have been more like $800. Thats just a guess - if anyone wants to support or refute it - feel free.

January 5th, 2004, 03:53 PM	#6
Randall Morton Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Memphis, TN Posts: 39	I spent the extra on the 40K because it is a newer model with DTS sound capability. The firewire is not that big a deal as you still have both, they are just on back. On the 30K one is in front and one on back. I have only had the 40k about 2 wks and I can't really say that it works any better than the 30k for my uses. I just bought my first tape with DTS sound but have not yet played it.

January 19th, 2004, 01:06 AM	#9
James Ball Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Sulphur, LA Posts: 61	the 30000 has D theater http://www.jvc.com/product.jsp?model...L026758&page=2 I got booted over here. I didn't notice this thread. makes sense to be here since this theread was first. If you click on the "features" link on both units the feature sets are identical. thanks for ironing out the differences. My next move is to DL the manuals. Nice of JVC to make them available.

January 19th, 2004, 11:52 AM	#10
Heath McKnight MPS Digital Studios Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Palm Beach County, Florida Posts: 8,531	The 40k is probably just a new model. Essentially, the XL-1 and the XL-1s are identical, minus a lot of new bells and whistles. But to me, the image on both cameras are the same. heath __________________ My Final Cut Pro X blog

January 20th, 2004, 03:10 AM	#11
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	James, try contacting JVC. They should be able to tell you what the differences are. __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

January 20th, 2004, 12:24 PM	#12
Heath McKnight MPS Digital Studios Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Palm Beach County, Florida Posts: 8,531	I saw a 30k deck at Sears for $400, but my friend warned me that there may not be component in/outputs. heath __________________ My Final Cut Pro X blog

January 20th, 2004, 02:01 PM	#13
Gints Klimanis Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 2,222	The 30k's feature set never included component inputs, but it does include component outputs.

January 20th, 2004, 03:19 PM	#14
Heath McKnight MPS Digital Studios Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Palm Beach County, Florida Posts: 8,531	Gints, Does the 40k have component input AND output? heath __________________ My Final Cut Pro X blog

January 20th, 2004, 05:05 PM	#15
Gints Klimanis Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 2,222	Heath, From the spec sheets on the JVC web site, both the R3k and R4k have component out but no component in.