Studio Pro 1.2 LE at DVinfo.net

Lynne Whelden · October 16th, 2003, 05:02 PM

So many users seem to reject JVC's editing solution out of hand. I'm wondering if anyone has taken on the challenge to try to make the best of the situation and to do an entire production using the free software. Or am I missing something? Are its deficiencies so great it's literally impossible to do a nice soundtrack (with at least nat sound and narration or music on two channels), a simple title and a few basic transitions? In other words, a typical documentary-styled piece that uses insert edits. I don't need titles that jiggle or composited shots. I've heard so little about this software, could someone experienced with LE please fill me in? Thanks!

Paul Mogg · October 16th, 2003, 05:18 PM

I found it difficult and very time consuming to simplyadd 3 or 4 clips in a row and add a crossfade between each, without the darn thing constantly crashing, it seemed untested and unfinished to me.

Just my personal experiece.

Steve Mullen · October 16th, 2003, 06:30 PM

Really good question Lynne.

If it's simply weird I could write a HOW TO.

But, I'm not going to bother if it's full of bugs.

I can tell you JVC was not interested in my reviewing it.

I've been waiting for feedback here and/or an update to be posted by JVC.

And, although this is by far the most active list for the JVC camcorders, I'm not sure how many contributors are actually TODAY editing with a deadline, HDV material. So who's edited and finished a piece? And, on what?

Raymond Krystof · October 16th, 2003, 07:33 PM

I have Studio Pro 1.0 LE, which is what came with my HD10. At first I thought the software was working OK. Captures without problem, but building a timeline seems almost impossible. I once defended the product when I just started editing because with only 5 or 6 minute of timeline everything was working OK. Later, with only 12 minutes of timeline, simple cuts and transitions, everything came to a screeching halt. It didn’t crash, but it feels on the verge of doing so. The hard drive just grinds and nothing happens. I just gave up.

I didn’t know that there is a version 1.2 out. If this is available with a no cost upgrade, I might try it. If there is any cost at all involved, at this point I will opt to pursue Aspect HD instead.

Peter Robert · October 16th, 2003, 08:37 PM

Raymond,

What is the config of your PC?

I edit HD clip without any problem. no matter it is 5 minutes or two hours project. My pc is P4 2.8, 1gb ram and a seperate video drive.

Raymond Krystof · October 16th, 2003, 08:53 PM

Peter,

I have a P4 3.06, 1gb ram and separate video drive running XP home edition. Please note that I have Studio Pro 1.0 LE. Could this be the problem?

Bob England · October 16th, 2003, 11:16 PM

Perhaps help is on the way.
The companies that established the HDV format have set up a website, http://www.hdv-info.org. Not much there now besides the press release, but even that is interesting because it states, "The following companies have expressed support for the HDV format at present:
Adobe Systems Incorporated
Canopus Co., Ltd.
KDDI R&D Laboratories
Sony Pictures Digital Networks
Ulead Systems, Inc."

Can this mean that official support for HDV formate in Adobe Premiere, Canopus Edius, and Sony Vegas may not be far off?

Steve Mullen · October 16th, 2003, 11:21 PM

<<<-- Originally posted by Peter Robert : Raymond,

What is the config of your PC?
-->>>

Have you edited a long (>15 minutes) piece with FX?

Which version of XP?

Which Graphics card?

The 2.8 is the new Hyper Threaded P4?

Raymond Krystof · October 16th, 2003, 11:41 PM

Steve and all,

Peter did state that he had succsess with projects of two hours. I’m now curious if there has been a major change to the software. Version 1.2 vs. 1.0. I’ve tried to search the JVC site but haven’t found anything on this upgrade. Anyone else have any insite into this version change?

Steve Mullen · October 17th, 2003, 02:00 AM

I haven't heard of an upgrade?

Something's odd. One person gets 2 hours another only a few minutes.

Peter Robert · October 17th, 2003, 07:11 PM

Raymond,

I forgot the version of the Studio Pro. But I bought my HD1 at the very beginning when it was launched in the market. And I never upgraged my software.

Lynne Whelden · October 19th, 2003, 09:43 PM

So I guess my question is directed to the one person on the planet that is able to edit with the bundled software.....

--can you do insert edits?
--can you extract audio from video?
--how do you construct the sound track?
--is there a titler?
--are the clips stored in a "bin?" how do you keep track of the clips?
--can you do a basic dissolve?

I'll stop there for now. Thanks..

Steve Mullen · October 20th, 2003, 01:02 AM

Lynne, most of your questions are answered at the KDDI website.

I thought you had a camcorder? If so you can try the NLE.

Lynne Whelden · October 20th, 2003, 08:00 AM

I've already bought your book (thanks!)and I've been following these discussions for months but the project I would be needing this camcorder for isn't until next summer. Thus I haven't plunged in yet with a purchase. I'll check out the website.

Stephen L. Minor · October 21st, 2003, 05:16 AM

I tell you my vote is hell no. It's impossible. IMPOSSIBLE I TELL YOU!!!!

I would like to see lynne's ques. answered. Editing is cuts, dissolves, fades, filters of 80+ min. not slapping some clips on a timeline.

-S

October 16th, 2003, 05:02 PM	#1
Lynne Whelden Major Player Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: williamsport, pa Posts: 604	Studio Pro 1.2 LE So many users seem to reject JVC's editing solution out of hand. I'm wondering if anyone has taken on the challenge to try to make the best of the situation and to do an entire production using the free software. Or am I missing something? Are its deficiencies so great it's literally impossible to do a nice soundtrack (with at least nat sound and narration or music on two channels), a simple title and a few basic transitions? In other words, a typical documentary-styled piece that uses insert edits. I don't need titles that jiggle or composited shots. I've heard so little about this software, could someone experienced with LE please fill me in? Thanks!

October 16th, 2003, 05:18 PM	#2
Paul Mogg Major Player Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: San Francisco CA Posts: 386	I found it difficult and very time consuming to simplyadd 3 or 4 clips in a row and add a crossfade between each, without the darn thing constantly crashing, it seemed untested and unfinished to me. Just my personal experiece. __________________ Paul

October 16th, 2003, 06:30 PM	#3
Steve Mullen HDV Cinema Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 4,007	Really good question Lynne. If it's simply weird I could write a HOW TO. But, I'm not going to bother if it's full of bugs. I can tell you JVC was not interested in my reviewing it. I've been waiting for feedback here and/or an update to be posted by JVC. And, although this is by far the most active list for the JVC camcorders, I'm not sure how many contributors are actually TODAY editing with a deadline, HDV material. So who's edited and finished a piece? And, on what? __________________ Switcher's Quick Guide to the Avid Media Composer >>> http://home.mindspring.com/~d-v-c

October 16th, 2003, 07:33 PM	#4
Raymond Krystof Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Santa Clarita, California Posts: 97	Studio Pro 1.2 LE? I have Studio Pro 1.0 LE, which is what came with my HD10. At first I thought the software was working OK. Captures without problem, but building a timeline seems almost impossible. I once defended the product when I just started editing because with only 5 or 6 minute of timeline everything was working OK. Later, with only 12 minutes of timeline, simple cuts and transitions, everything came to a screeching halt. It didn’t crash, but it feels on the verge of doing so. The hard drive just grinds and nothing happens. I just gave up. I didn’t know that there is a version 1.2 out. If this is available with a no cost upgrade, I might try it. If there is any cost at all involved, at this point I will opt to pursue Aspect HD instead. __________________ Ray

October 16th, 2003, 08:53 PM	#6
Raymond Krystof Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Santa Clarita, California Posts: 97	Peter, I have a P4 3.06, 1gb ram and separate video drive running XP home edition. Please note that I have Studio Pro 1.0 LE. Could this be the problem? __________________ Ray

October 16th, 2003, 08:37 PM	#5
Peter Robert Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Singapore Posts: 70	Raymond, What is the config of your PC? I edit HD clip without any problem. no matter it is 5 minutes or two hours project. My pc is P4 2.8, 1gb ram and a seperate video drive.

October 16th, 2003, 11:16 PM	#7
Bob England Regular Crew Join Date: May 2003 Location: North Hollywood, CA Posts: 59	Perhaps help is on the way. The companies that established the HDV format have set up a website, http://www.hdv-info.org. Not much there now besides the press release, but even that is interesting because it states, "The following companies have expressed support for the HDV format at present: Adobe Systems Incorporated Canopus Co., Ltd. KDDI R&D Laboratories Sony Pictures Digital Networks Ulead Systems, Inc." Can this mean that official support for HDV formate in Adobe Premiere, Canopus Edius, and Sony Vegas may not be far off?

October 16th, 2003, 11:21 PM	#8
Steve Mullen HDV Cinema Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 4,007	<<<-- Originally posted by Peter Robert : Raymond, What is the config of your PC? -->>> Have you edited a long (>15 minutes) piece with FX? Which version of XP? Which Graphics card? The 2.8 is the new Hyper Threaded P4? __________________ Switcher's Quick Guide to the Avid Media Composer >>> http://home.mindspring.com/~d-v-c

October 16th, 2003, 11:41 PM	#9
Raymond Krystof Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Santa Clarita, California Posts: 97	Steve and all, Peter did state that he had succsess with projects of two hours. I’m now curious if there has been a major change to the software. Version 1.2 vs. 1.0. I’ve tried to search the JVC site but haven’t found anything on this upgrade. Anyone else have any insite into this version change? __________________ Ray

October 17th, 2003, 02:00 AM	#10
Steve Mullen HDV Cinema Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 4,007	I haven't heard of an upgrade? Something's odd. One person gets 2 hours another only a few minutes. __________________ Switcher's Quick Guide to the Avid Media Composer >>> http://home.mindspring.com/~d-v-c

October 17th, 2003, 07:11 PM	#11
Peter Robert Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Singapore Posts: 70	Raymond, I forgot the version of the Studio Pro. But I bought my HD1 at the very beginning when it was launched in the market. And I never upgraged my software.

October 19th, 2003, 09:43 PM	#12
Lynne Whelden Major Player Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: williamsport, pa Posts: 604	So I guess my question is directed to the one person on the planet that is able to edit with the bundled software..... --can you do insert edits? --can you extract audio from video? --how do you construct the sound track? --is there a titler? --are the clips stored in a "bin?" how do you keep track of the clips? --can you do a basic dissolve? I'll stop there for now. Thanks..

October 20th, 2003, 01:02 AM	#13
Steve Mullen HDV Cinema Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 4,007	Lynne, most of your questions are answered at the KDDI website. I thought you had a camcorder? If so you can try the NLE. __________________ Switcher's Quick Guide to the Avid Media Composer >>> http://home.mindspring.com/~d-v-c

October 20th, 2003, 08:00 AM	#14
Lynne Whelden Major Player Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: williamsport, pa Posts: 604	I've already bought your book (thanks!)and I've been following these discussions for months but the project I would be needing this camcorder for isn't until next summer. Thus I haven't plunged in yet with a purchase. I'll check out the website.

October 21st, 2003, 05:16 AM	#15
Stephen L. Minor Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: L.A., CA Posts: 35	I tell you my vote is hell no. It's impossible. IMPOSSIBLE I TELL YOU!!!! I would like to see lynne's ques. answered. Editing is cuts, dissolves, fades, filters of 80+ min. not slapping some clips on a timeline. -S __________________ -S