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Jamey Gigliagi · September 12th, 2008, 07:03 PM

i am in the market for a tablet for my pc that I will be using for photoshop/graphics work and hd editing. In general is a tablet helpful in editing video at all? For those who use their tablet for both, is it more of a pain to use a wide screen format one on a photo, or a standard one on hd video?

I currently have a full screen monitor. How would the widescreen tablet deal with the discrepancy, or is the tablet soley program based? For example, if I am in photoshop and designate my canvas to be 10x1, will the tablet only allow me to use an area that shape and then when I switch to Premiere, will it only allow me to use a 16x9 area?

Thanks

Harm Millaard · September 14th, 2008, 04:41 AM

Seems like a waste of money because of the inadequate disk configuration, the limited screen resolution and size, the memory limitations etc. This especially for HDV.

George Kroonder · September 14th, 2008, 05:43 AM

I believe you are referring to a Wacom (type) tablet and not a Tablet PC mobile device I think Harm is referring to.

Usually a tablet "maps" to your screen regardless of resolution, i.e. the top left corner of the tablet is the top left corner of your screen. The same goes for the other corners and everything in between. However you can also set it up to work on just part of your screen though the control panel/software.

Applications need to support the extra functionality the tablet offers. Photoshop support just about everything. Pro 3D apps also support many functions. Most video apps only support basic functionality (pressure sensitivity). See an overview here: Wacom Tablet Enhanced Software

How useful the tablet is to you depends on what you use it with and which tablet you purchase.

George/

Harm Millaard · September 14th, 2008, 08:36 AM

You were right George, I was referring to a tablet PC. Sorry for my mistake.

Jamey Gigliagi · September 14th, 2008, 08:55 AM

I did not see Premiere listed on Wacom's site. Does it not support tablet use of any kind?

I am currently leaning toward the 9x12 wacom intuos3.

Giroud Francois · September 14th, 2008, 12:31 PM

the best is a tablet with an underlying lcd screen, so you can draw over what you see.
it is a bit more expensive but it is really nice.

Jamey Gigliagi · September 14th, 2008, 01:26 PM

I saw those Cintiq ones and they seem like an ideal solution, but since I am not doing professional work and am just a high school student I just cannot justify the price. $2000 vs $670 for the same sensitivity level and comparable size. There are just too many other things that I really need at the moment that I think would be more beneficial.

How hard is it to train yourself to draw with your hand, but only see the results and your canvas on your monitor? Does it take a few minutes, hours, days, years?

Has anyone used a wacom tablet with premiere who could comment on its practicality/compatibility?

thanks

Giroud Francois · September 14th, 2008, 03:31 PM

i really do not see any reason to use a tablet for video editing, except if you do graphic work on video (rotoscoping)
a "shuttle" button or a keyboard marked with shortcut would be more useful and less expensive.
most of professional using editing programs are using keyboard and shorcuts more than mouse. It is a lot faster.

George Kroonder · September 15th, 2008, 05:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jamey Gigliagi

How hard is it to train yourself to draw with your hand, but only see the results and your canvas on your monitor? Does it take a few minutes, hours, days, years?

I could never get used to it really or maybe I'm too old/stubborn to learn ;-)
Colleges swear by them however. And you are correct, PPro has no tablet support.

IMHO it is really more for Photoshop and 3D work where you select many tools/inks and can use the extra functions of the tablet.

For editing I'd go with Giroud's advice. Color and audio techs also have their "own" control surfaces to enhance the (work) experience.

George/

Blake Raidal · September 15th, 2008, 06:09 AM

I own a 6x11 wide wacom... If I where you I wouldn't go bigger than this, the bigger the panel the more you have to move your arm to achieve the same result. A mouse is convenient because its easy to move from one side of the screen to another in a flash, exactly what video editors want.

I mainly use it for painting in photoshop or making masks or whatever. I stick to the gaming mouse for Premiere, purely because its quicker.

I think alot of TV editors use a tablet because Avid has a shuttle feature where the editor can scrub back and forward using a circular motion of the pen.. its really quick and efficient. Premiere has no wacom features but you can still use the pen like a mouse.

September 12th, 2008, 07:03 PM	#1
Jamey Gigliagi Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Harrisburg, PA Posts: 25	tablet users i am in the market for a tablet for my pc that I will be using for photoshop/graphics work and hd editing. In general is a tablet helpful in editing video at all? For those who use their tablet for both, is it more of a pain to use a wide screen format one on a photo, or a standard one on hd video? I currently have a full screen monitor. How would the widescreen tablet deal with the discrepancy, or is the tablet soley program based? For example, if I am in photoshop and designate my canvas to be 10x1, will the tablet only allow me to use an area that shape and then when I switch to Premiere, will it only allow me to use a 16x9 area? Thanks

September 14th, 2008, 04:41 AM	#2
Harm Millaard Trustee Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Rotterdam, Netherlands Posts: 1,832	Seems like a waste of money because of the inadequate disk configuration, the limited screen resolution and size, the memory limitations etc. This especially for HDV.

September 14th, 2008, 05:43 AM	#3
George Kroonder Major Player Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Utrecht, NL \| Europe 3rd Rock from the Sun Posts: 612	I believe you are referring to a Wacom (type) tablet and not a Tablet PC mobile device I think Harm is referring to. Usually a tablet "maps" to your screen regardless of resolution, i.e. the top left corner of the tablet is the top left corner of your screen. The same goes for the other corners and everything in between. However you can also set it up to work on just part of your screen though the control panel/software. Applications need to support the extra functionality the tablet offers. Photoshop support just about everything. Pro 3D apps also support many functions. Most video apps only support basic functionality (pressure sensitivity). See an overview here: Wacom Tablet Enhanced Software How useful the tablet is to you depends on what you use it with and which tablet you purchase. George/

September 14th, 2008, 08:36 AM	#4
Harm Millaard Trustee Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Rotterdam, Netherlands Posts: 1,832	You were right George, I was referring to a tablet PC. Sorry for my mistake.

September 14th, 2008, 08:55 AM	#5
Jamey Gigliagi Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Harrisburg, PA Posts: 25	I did not see Premiere listed on Wacom's site. Does it not support tablet use of any kind? I am currently leaning toward the 9x12 wacom intuos3.

September 14th, 2008, 12:31 PM	#6
Giroud Francois Inner Circle Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: switzerland Posts: 2,133	the best is a tablet with an underlying lcd screen, so you can draw over what you see. it is a bit more expensive but it is really nice.

September 14th, 2008, 01:26 PM	#7
Jamey Gigliagi Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Harrisburg, PA Posts: 25	I saw those Cintiq ones and they seem like an ideal solution, but since I am not doing professional work and am just a high school student I just cannot justify the price. $2000 vs $670 for the same sensitivity level and comparable size. There are just too many other things that I really need at the moment that I think would be more beneficial. How hard is it to train yourself to draw with your hand, but only see the results and your canvas on your monitor? Does it take a few minutes, hours, days, years? Has anyone used a wacom tablet with premiere who could comment on its practicality/compatibility? thanks

September 14th, 2008, 03:31 PM	#8
Giroud Francois Inner Circle Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: switzerland Posts: 2,133	i really do not see any reason to use a tablet for video editing, except if you do graphic work on video (rotoscoping) a "shuttle" button or a keyboard marked with shortcut would be more useful and less expensive. most of professional using editing programs are using keyboard and shorcuts more than mouse. It is a lot faster.

September 15th, 2008, 06:09 AM	#10
Blake Raidal Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 39	I own a 6x11 wide wacom... If I where you I wouldn't go bigger than this, the bigger the panel the more you have to move your arm to achieve the same result. A mouse is convenient because its easy to move from one side of the screen to another in a flash, exactly what video editors want. I mainly use it for painting in photoshop or making masks or whatever. I stick to the gaming mouse for Premiere, purely because its quicker. I think alot of TV editors use a tablet because Avid has a shuttle feature where the editor can scrub back and forward using a circular motion of the pen.. its really quick and efficient. Premiere has no wacom features but you can still use the pen like a mouse.