Canopus Edius User Report at DVinfo.net

Jim Exton · March 19th, 2006, 02:40 PM

For anyone still looking for a PC solution for the P2, I would highly recommend the Canopus Broadcast.

I have the trial version, I imported 1080P files and was able to edit and scrub in realtime. I have a Dell Workstation with a 2.8 Xeon, 513MB Ram and external SATA drives, but they aren't raided.

I was really impressed, it was just like working with DV. I didn't think I would be able to work with the 1080 stuff, but it worked just fine.

The only thing I had to change was: I guess when I imported it, I didn't have the right settings, I had to change the footage manually to progressive, 23.97fps. But once that was done, it was smooth as silk.

Great program, lacking in the audio department a little, color correction is pretty solid. I am still playing with it, but it is definitely a winner.

David Andrews · March 19th, 2006, 02:59 PM

You may find these two sites worth a look:
http://www.videoproductions.com.au/
http://www.panoramaproductions.net/edius.html

Both are serious users who have moved over from other nles.

There is also a very useful set of tutorials available on line at the main Canopus site.

Peter Jefferson · March 19th, 2006, 10:21 PM

one thing i have to admit, is that canopus codecs are probably some of the most refined and offer some of the best performance for the windows environment.

Kevin Shaw · March 19th, 2006, 10:30 PM

Where did you get a trial version of Edius Broadcast? Is that available on the Canopus web site?

David Andrews · March 20th, 2006, 01:38 AM

If you go to the main site it will lead you to it. Beware that if you have Edius already installed, the full version and the trial do not mix - there is a post about this on the Edius forum.

Kevin Shaw · March 20th, 2006, 09:21 AM

Ah, I see that the new demo incorporates key features of Edius Broadcast even though it's still listed as an Edius Pro demo. Maybe now I can finally process the test footage I shot on an HVX200 last month.

Jim Exton · March 20th, 2006, 11:48 AM

Also make sure you have the P2 drivers installed before you install the Edius.

Barry Green · March 21st, 2006, 01:25 PM

I'm still barely wading through the Canopus workflow, but I've used Avid and FCP and Vegas/Premiere and now Canopus, and I can say this: Canopus is *ideal* for MXF/P2 import/export. The Canopus guys really got this part right! It's pretty much exactly how you'd want it done. Avid does let you import off the cards, and Apple's MXF support is the weakest, but Canopus is nearly perfect in this regard. You can edit right off the card, you can import the files directly from the card, you can tell it to import files and copy them to your hard disk at the same time, you can view the metadata associated with the clips at import, basically everything import-wise is 100% supported. And when it comes time to export you can do everything you'd want -- you can export an MXF file straight from the timeline, directly to the card, for playback in the camera. If you don't have a PCMCIA slot on your computer, you can export through the USB2 cable to a card mounted in the camera. You can export to a "virtual card" on your hard disk. And you can set custom clip names and set metadata parameters for the files you export. And it supports every mode -- you can do 1080/24p and 1080/24pa and 1080/30p right now, something the other NLEs can't do or really struggle with.

You can even launch the Panasonic P2 Viewer program from a menu item in Edius.

I don't know enough about the program yet to say how it compares to the other NLEs *as an NLE*, but as far as MXF/P2 integration goes, all the other NLEs should go to Canopus school to see how it should be done. I'm liking this program more and more every time I run it.

Ashton Robinson · March 23rd, 2006, 01:47 PM

Ok this was what I've been looking for I am not going to even entertain the P2 card thing.

March 19th, 2006, 02:40 PM	#1
Jim Exton Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Memphis Posts: 103	Canopus Edius User Report For anyone still looking for a PC solution for the P2, I would highly recommend the Canopus Broadcast. I have the trial version, I imported 1080P files and was able to edit and scrub in realtime. I have a Dell Workstation with a 2.8 Xeon, 513MB Ram and external SATA drives, but they aren't raided. I was really impressed, it was just like working with DV. I didn't think I would be able to work with the 1080 stuff, but it worked just fine. The only thing I had to change was: I guess when I imported it, I didn't have the right settings, I had to change the footage manually to progressive, 23.97fps. But once that was done, it was smooth as silk. Great program, lacking in the audio department a little, color correction is pretty solid. I am still playing with it, but it is definitely a winner. __________________ "Four Years", a 35mm short film at http://vimeo.com/3071939 "Anniversary", a short film shot on Red at www.jim-exton.blogspot.com

March 20th, 2006, 11:48 AM	#7
Jim Exton Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Memphis Posts: 103	Also make sure you have the P2 drivers installed before you install the Edius. __________________ "Four Years", a 35mm short film at http://vimeo.com/3071939 "Anniversary", a short film shot on Red at www.jim-exton.blogspot.com

March 19th, 2006, 02:59 PM	#2
David Andrews Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 131	You may find these two sites worth a look: http://www.videoproductions.com.au/ http://www.panoramaproductions.net/edius.html Both are serious users who have moved over from other nles. There is also a very useful set of tutorials available on line at the main Canopus site.

March 19th, 2006, 10:21 PM	#3
Peter Jefferson Inner Circle Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Aus Posts: 3,884	one thing i have to admit, is that canopus codecs are probably some of the most refined and offer some of the best performance for the windows environment.

March 19th, 2006, 10:30 PM	#4
Kevin Shaw Inner Circle Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 2,488	Where did you get a trial version of Edius Broadcast? Is that available on the Canopus web site?

March 20th, 2006, 01:38 AM	#5
David Andrews Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 131	If you go to the main site it will lead you to it. Beware that if you have Edius already installed, the full version and the trial do not mix - there is a post about this on the Edius forum.

March 20th, 2006, 09:21 AM	#6
Kevin Shaw Inner Circle Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 2,488	Ah, I see that the new demo incorporates key features of Edius Broadcast even though it's still listed as an Edius Pro demo. Maybe now I can finally process the test footage I shot on an HVX200 last month.

March 21st, 2006, 01:25 PM	#8
Barry Green Barry Wan Kenobi Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: North Carolina Posts: 3,863	I'm still barely wading through the Canopus workflow, but I've used Avid and FCP and Vegas/Premiere and now Canopus, and I can say this: Canopus is ideal for MXF/P2 import/export. The Canopus guys really got this part right! It's pretty much exactly how you'd want it done. Avid does let you import off the cards, and Apple's MXF support is the weakest, but Canopus is nearly perfect in this regard. You can edit right off the card, you can import the files directly from the card, you can tell it to import files and copy them to your hard disk at the same time, you can view the metadata associated with the clips at import, basically everything import-wise is 100% supported. And when it comes time to export you can do everything you'd want -- you can export an MXF file straight from the timeline, directly to the card, for playback in the camera. If you don't have a PCMCIA slot on your computer, you can export through the USB2 cable to a card mounted in the camera. You can export to a "virtual card" on your hard disk. And you can set custom clip names and set metadata parameters for the files you export. And it supports every mode -- you can do 1080/24p and 1080/24pa and 1080/30p right now, something the other NLEs can't do or really struggle with. You can even launch the Panasonic P2 Viewer program from a menu item in Edius. I don't know enough about the program yet to say how it compares to the other NLEs as an NLE, but as far as MXF/P2 integration goes, all the other NLEs should go to Canopus school to see how it should be done. I'm liking this program more and more every time I run it.

March 23rd, 2006, 01:47 PM	#9
Ashton Robinson New Boot Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: sl'Ohio Posts: 17	Ok this was what I've been looking for I am not going to even entertain the P2 card thing.