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April 22nd, 2018, 05:23 PM | #1 |
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alternatives to handbrake
i usually use this program to compress my mp4s for vimeo but it keeps hanging up on me. any other good ones that keep the quality but compress well?
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April 22nd, 2018, 05:45 PM | #2 |
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Re: alternatives to handbrake
Why do you want to re-compress? I get that you want a smaller video for uploading. Then why not just produce another MP4 version at a lower bitrate for Vimeo using your original clips and your original editor? It might take more time but that will produce a higher quality video and you do not need the hassle of another program.
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April 23rd, 2018, 12:33 AM | #3 |
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I already made an H 264 of it it was an hour long hi-def project I got it down to 6 GB handbreak would get it down to about nine hundred megabytesbut the quality is pristine.
If I reconvert the H 264 file I made again the quality will not look nearly as good |
April 23rd, 2018, 02:47 AM | #4 |
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To back up what Mark said, you shouldn't need to convert the H264 that you have already made. Just go to your original edited project file and export it to a lower bitrate MP4 at the same bitrate that you would get from Handbrake. That way you are not rerendering a copy.
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April 23rd, 2018, 05:37 PM | #5 |
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Handbrake is state of the art in every respect, including, the best codec available for h.264, the x264 codec.
One shouldn’t blithely assume all compression codecs are created equal - they’re not. The meaningful measure is quality at a given bitrate. There are university studies. x264 wins! In some cases, by a mile, as the OP stated. I write all this with some authority, having started in webcasting in the dark ages of the 1990s, and, as an instructor who currently teaches a college course in compression and streaming. Handbrake is a primary tool, including not only best-practices x264, but also Lanczos scaling, and Yadif deinterlacing, with a not-bad batch processor. For most NLE users, creating the slimmest and best render does indeed mean a two-step process, export in some mastering format from the NLE (DNxHD? Cineform?), then compress for distribution in Handbrake. Of course, creating the slimmest and best render isn’t always the task, as what an NLE creates natively can be good for many purposes, but not all! To the original poster - have you updated to the latest version of Handbrake? That’s the first thing you could look at. Have you recently installed software that includes codecs, or, a codec pack? A re-install of Handbrake might fix that.
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April 23rd, 2018, 08:02 PM | #6 |
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Thank you for your credentials and for your mini-lecture. But, did you read the original post? The OP says he already made an *MP4* (H264) file - he produced a delivery-codec video. Recompressing that MP4 video is not a good idea, no matter how good Handbrake is. And, no, the workflow you describe is not what all professionals follow. It makes no sense with today's modern NLE's and fast computers (have you tried Resolve Studio, for example?). We are no longer in the "dark ages."
The best advice: create with the same NLE another MP4 at a lower bitrate for YouTube using the original clips. Simple. Actually, you know what is even simpler - just upload the MP4 file you already have. Unless you pay by internet time used, this will produce the best result on YouTube and is even less of a hassle. The higher the quality of the uploaded video, the higher will be the quality of the YouTube version. |
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The OP asked how to do quality equivalent to Handbrake, and got “you’re doing it wrong” in response. It didn’t seem very respectful to me, perhaps that is why I resorted to credentials and details to try to open some acceptance of alternative workflows. He’s using a reasonable workflow if the focus is on quality at lowest bitrates. There are lots of reasons to create low-bitrate video, and Handbrake is about the best at this task. For some people, low-bitrate is key to maximum compatibility of video with various mobile devices. For others, low internet upload speeds means that if they can get good quality at low bitrates the Vimeo uploads can get done without the headache of waiting hours to see if the upload broke. Quote:
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But, sometimes, that isn’t good enough quality. That’s where Handbrake can help, by producing excellent quality at lower bitrates.
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H.264 is not inherently worse than other codecs, the quality depends on the bitrate and some other options. Quote:
Resolve's H.264 is certainly not among the best implementations. x264 is far superior. |
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However, that's not the issue. The OP was referring to transcoding H.264 back into a smaller H.264 for some reason. That is generation loss, and one shouldn't do that at all unless it absolutely 100% has to be done and there's no other option. |
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April 24th, 2018, 12:41 AM | #11 |
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Updated handbrake
All good. An hour program in edius will be big even if I lower nitrate I can't get it under a gb. But if I take it to handbrake it does. And yes for me in handbrake,that process keeps the quality looking great. The h264 was just under 7gb.in edius. Handbrake got it to 800mb. It looks great |
April 24th, 2018, 02:07 AM | #12 |
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A alternative for not leaving edius while you encode is the avc plugin from tmpgenc, this is also uses x264 codec and has a lot more options then the standard edius encoder.
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Before I used this plugin I also first rendered out a 25mb mp4 file out of edius and then used that file in handbrake to make a much lower bitrate hd file with excellent results. |
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April 24th, 2018, 08:13 AM | #14 |
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Does Edius do 2-pass VBR? That seems to be the difference between good quality high bitrate and good quality low bitrate.
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