Edius Neo & Flash at DVinfo.net

Paul Nixon · July 2nd, 2009, 04:25 PM

I'm making a roughly 3 minute promo video in Edius Neo (1.x)

1) After uploading to my website, when I access it directly (I have no link at present), both Explorer and Firefox wait until after the video has been "downloaded" before they kick off the player. At 270+MB it takes a while. While I doubt this has anything at all to do with Edius, is there a "switch" to make browsers open the video more quickly?

2) 270MB seems like a lot for this video. A previous version without the stereo music sound track and slightly less time (2:47 versus 3:03) was only 47MB. I'm using VBR for both audio and video. Does that sound right?

3) Ultimately I'd like to replace my current homepage with the video. I suppose it should be in Flash (flv) format. Am I going to run into the same size/download issue?

4) Is there any way to "zoom"? Is there any way to pan?

Thanks,

John Sirb · July 3rd, 2009, 10:36 AM

While I don't run Neo ( I use Edius) one thought. Was the first version maybe done in windows media and the second version mpeg2. that would explain the file size difference.

Paul Nixon · July 3rd, 2009, 09:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John Sirb

While I don't run Neo ( I use Edius) one thought. Was the first version maybe done in windows media and the second version mpeg2. that would explain the file size difference.

Hi John,

I've been experimenting, but no - adding audio blew the size out the window in wmv format.

I have since found a wmv to swf and it makes it very managable. I also found a flash player that does what I want, so it's good now.

Thanks.

Robert M Wright · July 4th, 2009, 10:10 AM

Is this SD or HD video?

Paul Nixon · July 6th, 2009, 11:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robert M Wright

Is this SD or HD video?

It's just SD video. I'm outputting to Windows WMV format. I've tried DV but the converter crapped out when trying to convert. I also tried mpeg2 but got black bars either side.

Ervin Farkas · July 8th, 2009, 06:04 AM

At this time I would not go with video encoded at over 500Kbps for the web. The reason is that a lot of people still have the lazy 756Kbps DSL, and most workplace networks are also limited to 1Mbps or less to preserve bandwidth. So if you go for higher bitrate, you exclude some potential viewers that will get frustrated with the choppy playback and move on to another website.

Of course, this does not apply to you if your target audience is exclusively high-tech geeks who, you know for sure, have high speed internet.

Robert M Wright · July 8th, 2009, 10:16 AM

You could encode SD using H.264, get under 500kbps, and have decent looking video (depending on content) using a flash player.

July 2nd, 2009, 04:25 PM	#1
Paul Nixon Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Mesa, AZ Posts: 141	Edius Neo & Flash I'm making a roughly 3 minute promo video in Edius Neo (1.x) 1) After uploading to my website, when I access it directly (I have no link at present), both Explorer and Firefox wait until after the video has been "downloaded" before they kick off the player. At 270+MB it takes a while. While I doubt this has anything at all to do with Edius, is there a "switch" to make browsers open the video more quickly? 2) 270MB seems like a lot for this video. A previous version without the stereo music sound track and slightly less time (2:47 versus 3:03) was only 47MB. I'm using VBR for both audio and video. Does that sound right? 3) Ultimately I'd like to replace my current homepage with the video. I suppose it should be in Flash (flv) format. Am I going to run into the same size/download issue? 4) Is there any way to "zoom"? Is there any way to pan? Thanks,

July 3rd, 2009, 10:36 AM	#2
John Sirb Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Amherst, OH Posts: 134	While I don't run Neo ( I use Edius) one thought. Was the first version maybe done in windows media and the second version mpeg2. that would explain the file size difference. __________________ John Sirb Lake Breeze Video

July 8th, 2009, 06:04 AM	#6
Ervin Farkas Inner Circle Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Atlanta/USA Posts: 2,515	At this time I would not go with video encoded at over 500Kbps for the web. The reason is that a lot of people still have the lazy 756Kbps DSL, and most workplace networks are also limited to 1Mbps or less to preserve bandwidth. So if you go for higher bitrate, you exclude some potential viewers that will get frustrated with the choppy playback and move on to another website. Of course, this does not apply to you if your target audience is exclusively high-tech geeks who, you know for sure, have high speed internet. __________________ Ervin Farkas www.AtlantaLegalVideo.com

July 4th, 2009, 10:10 AM	#4
Robert M Wright Inner Circle Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Minnesota (USA) Posts: 2,171	Is this SD or HD video?

July 8th, 2009, 10:16 AM	#7
Robert M Wright Inner Circle Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Minnesota (USA) Posts: 2,171	You could encode SD using H.264, get under 500kbps, and have decent looking video (depending on content) using a flash player.