General Edius question at DVinfo.net

Yang Wen · March 19th, 2009, 08:51 AM

Just played with the demo version of Edius .. Great product, the Canopus codec is wonderful! I could definitely see myself using this... except!

Where is the audio waveform? After bringing an audio file to the preview monitor, I would expect to see the waveform to identify beats or be able to visually navigate an audio file by its waveform image. All I see is a black screen. Please tell me there is a way to enable this feature. This functionality is essential in my editing style and the only thing that's holding me back.

Ronnie Martin · March 19th, 2009, 12:21 PM

I don't have the trial version but if you will look on the timeline at the extreme left you will see several little icons that will turn off or on the wave form. One is a little triangle that opens up the file and displays the wave form. There is also an icon for mute and I believe several more. Depending on the way you have Edius set up the display on the rubber band can be changed to your preference.

Go to the training site on the home page Canopus Worldwide Home and you will find some basic instructions about Edius 5.0. The latest version is 5.01 and it cleans up some problems in 5.0. If you are new to Edius then invest in Mike Downey's training DVD. It is well worth the cost. Also be aware in the trial version not all the functionality is present.

Good Luck

Ronnie Martin
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Yang Wen · March 19th, 2009, 02:29 PM

Thanks ROnnie,

Yes I was able to enable waveform in the timeline. However, I was really looking for the audio waveform in the preview window... Very often, I would cut up a piece of music to modify its length to fit the edit. I would select different parts of the music in the preview window based on its beats - using the audio waveform as a visual guide, then dropping those segments onto the timeline.. Waveform on the timeline is necessary, but as is waveform in the preview window. Any noise from the Edius camp as to whether or not this feature is high on their enhancement list?

Ronnie Martin · March 19th, 2009, 06:36 PM

I haven't heard of any. However, on the canopus site there is a place to put your request for a feature. I just go to the end of the video timeline and then add the audio track and open the wave form. From there I cut and paste the pieces together. Just right click on the separated parts you have cu out and click on ripple delete. The spaces will come together and you can export it as a wave file and then take it back into the project.

Take care

Ronnie Martin
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Pat Sipes · April 3rd, 2009, 12:56 PM

There is no waveform in the preview monitor. It is being looked at. For now you will have to use the waveform in the timeline.

Yang Wen · April 3rd, 2009, 03:19 PM

Thanks, I've decided to stick with Vegas.. Edius felt to "locked-down" coming from Vegas. It is one stable NLE though!

Ron Evans · April 3rd, 2009, 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yang Wen

Thanks, I've decided to stick with Vegas.. Edius felt to "locked-down" coming from Vegas. It is one stable NLE though!

I use both. Edius for most video editing especially multicam and Vegas for audio and export to DVD Architect. I also use Vegas for AVCHD single track editing from my SR11.
Ron Evans

Ronnie Martin · April 3rd, 2009, 06:39 PM

I am a long time Edius user and from what I hear there are some audio improvements coming with 5.1 that is yet to be released. I am still amaized that I can put almost anythng on the time line and hit the space bar and it plays without rendering. Since our move now to all HD/HDV cameras we have noticed a little slow down in realtime proformance. However, it is still awesome rock solid. I have an occasion ot edit on a machine at our church that has a very popular NLE and I really have a hard time because of the constant rendering.

Thanks for the help

Ronnie Martin
wwwldirtracingvideo.com

Martin Duffy · April 6th, 2009, 06:44 AM

Hi all

I am a long time Edius user and about to get into Bluray authoring.

Can anyone out there suggest an OK Authoring product for Bluray? Anything that is sort of similar to Ulead DVD Workshop would be fine for me.

Also what export setting should I go for from Edius? Any tips welcome.

Finally what Bluray discs should I get? The 25G or 50 gig versions?

Hoping Edius will do Bluray from the timeline soon.

Any other tips most welcome.

Ronnie Martin · April 6th, 2009, 08:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin Duffy

Hi all

I am a long time Edius user and about to get into Bluray authoring.

Can anyone out there suggest an OK Authoring product for Bluray? Anything that is sort of similar to Ulead DVD Workshop would be fine for me.

Also what export setting should I go for from Edius? Any tips welcome.

Finally what Bluray discs should I get? The 25G or 50 gig versions?

Hoping Edius will do Bluray from the timeline soon.

Any other tips most welcome.

I don't have a clue to what is coming from Edius at NAB. However, I am going probably for the last time this year just to see what is coming with 5.1. What is needed for Bluray to take off like DVD is cheaper disks. When your product sells for $25.00 and the blank disks are still in the $15-16 dollar range it will be a long time for Blu ray to take off like DVD. I think that Sony is keeping the price up on purpose to keep folks like me from moving up to Bluray with our production. Mybe they don't want the small independedt Event producers to be successful. We have updated all of our caneras and editing stations to HD and the SD DVD does not look as good as it did when we were shooting SD and distributing in SD DVD.

We keep hoping.....

Ronnie Martin
www.dirtracingvide.com

Martin Duffy · April 13th, 2009, 05:21 PM

I use Edius version 5 and it’s marvelous.

I also have Macromedia Flash and the Flash Encoder installed and was wondering how you tell Edius to intergrate with the Encoder so that you can create a flash file from the Edius timeline.

Thanks

Martin
Australia

Ronnie Martin · April 13th, 2009, 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin Duffy

I use Edius version 5 and it’s marvelous.

I also have Macromedia Flash and the Flash Encoder installed and was wondering how you tell Edius to intergrate with the Encoder so that you can create a flash file from the Edius timeline.

Thanks

Martin
Australia

Hello Martin: I don't have a clue as how to create a flsh file from the timeline in Edius. I have 5.01 on my laptop but have not put it on my Desk tops yet. I am waiting for 5.10 to come out with some fixes. I expect that the best place to ask this question is on the Canopus/Edius forum.

Take care

Ronnie Martin
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Martin Duffy · April 14th, 2009, 07:11 PM

There is a fix to the problem from the Edius people themselves:

Quote below regarding Flash exporting,
EDIUS requires installing Adobe CS3 Professional (not CS4) to export to .flv from EDIUS timeline.
You can't install Adobe CS4 for this purpose, because CS3 supports to import a source file via
QuickTime bridge component (EDIUS uses this function to support exporting to .flv), however
CS4 doesn't support this function.
We have requested the marketing team supporting .flv in combination with CS4 in the future.

Kevin Shaw · May 5th, 2009, 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yang Wen

Yes I was able to enable waveform in the timeline. However, I was really looking for the audio waveform in the preview window...

You can turn on a horizontal audio meter in the preview window using the application settings, but I'm not at an Edius system just now so I can't tell you the exact details.

Kevin Shaw · May 5th, 2009, 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin Duffy

I am a long time Edius user and about to get into Bluray authoring. Can anyone out there suggest an OK Authoring product for Bluray?

Edius version 5 supports Blu-ray authoring through an accompanying authoring program, and has a lot of other new features which should be well worth the upgrade price. Version 5.1 (due out in the next week or so) reportedly supports simple Blu-ray burning directly from the timeline.

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March 19th, 2009, 08:51 AM	#1
Yang Wen Major Player Join Date: May 2003 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 991	General Edius question Just played with the demo version of Edius .. Great product, the Canopus codec is wonderful! I could definitely see myself using this... except! Where is the audio waveform? After bringing an audio file to the preview monitor, I would expect to see the waveform to identify beats or be able to visually navigate an audio file by its waveform image. All I see is a black screen. Please tell me there is a way to enable this feature. This functionality is essential in my editing style and the only thing that's holding me back.

March 19th, 2009, 12:21 PM	#2
Ronnie Martin Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Brandon, Ms 39042 USA Posts: 159	I don't have the trial version but if you will look on the timeline at the extreme left you will see several little icons that will turn off or on the wave form. One is a little triangle that opens up the file and displays the wave form. There is also an icon for mute and I believe several more. Depending on the way you have Edius set up the display on the rubber band can be changed to your preference. Go to the training site on the home page Canopus Worldwide Home and you will find some basic instructions about Edius 5.0. The latest version is 5.01 and it cleans up some problems in 5.0. If you are new to Edius then invest in Mike Downey's training DVD. It is well worth the cost. Also be aware in the trial version not all the functionality is present. Good Luck Ronnie Martin Page 1 __________________ Ronnie Martin Kato Video

March 19th, 2009, 06:36 PM	#4
Ronnie Martin Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Brandon, Ms 39042 USA Posts: 159	I haven't heard of any. However, on the canopus site there is a place to put your request for a feature. I just go to the end of the video timeline and then add the audio track and open the wave form. From there I cut and paste the pieces together. Just right click on the separated parts you have cu out and click on ripple delete. The spaces will come together and you can export it as a wave file and then take it back into the project. Take care Ronnie Martin Page 1 __________________ Ronnie Martin Kato Video

April 3rd, 2009, 06:39 PM	#8
Ronnie Martin Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Brandon, Ms 39042 USA Posts: 159	I am a long time Edius user and from what I hear there are some audio improvements coming with 5.1 that is yet to be released. I am still amaized that I can put almost anythng on the time line and hit the space bar and it plays without rendering. Since our move now to all HD/HDV cameras we have noticed a little slow down in realtime proformance. However, it is still awesome rock solid. I have an occasion ot edit on a machine at our church that has a very popular NLE and I really have a hard time because of the constant rendering. Thanks for the help Ronnie Martin wwwldirtracingvideo.com __________________ Ronnie Martin Kato Video

April 6th, 2009, 06:44 AM	#9
Martin Duffy Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 156	Bluray and Edius Hi all I am a long time Edius user and about to get into Bluray authoring. Can anyone out there suggest an OK Authoring product for Bluray? Anything that is sort of similar to Ulead DVD Workshop would be fine for me. Also what export setting should I go for from Edius? Any tips welcome. Finally what Bluray discs should I get? The 25G or 50 gig versions? Hoping Edius will do Bluray from the timeline soon. Any other tips most welcome.

March 19th, 2009, 02:29 PM	#3
Yang Wen Major Player Join Date: May 2003 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 991	Thanks ROnnie, Yes I was able to enable waveform in the timeline. However, I was really looking for the audio waveform in the preview window... Very often, I would cut up a piece of music to modify its length to fit the edit. I would select different parts of the music in the preview window based on its beats - using the audio waveform as a visual guide, then dropping those segments onto the timeline.. Waveform on the timeline is necessary, but as is waveform in the preview window. Any noise from the Edius camp as to whether or not this feature is high on their enhancement list?

April 3rd, 2009, 12:56 PM	#5
Pat Sipes Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 26	There is no waveform in the preview monitor. It is being looked at. For now you will have to use the waveform in the timeline.

April 3rd, 2009, 03:19 PM	#6
Yang Wen Major Player Join Date: May 2003 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 991	Thanks, I've decided to stick with Vegas.. Edius felt to "locked-down" coming from Vegas. It is one stable NLE though!

April 13th, 2009, 05:21 PM	#11
Martin Duffy Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 156	creating a Flash file with Edius I use Edius version 5 and it’s marvelous. I also have Macromedia Flash and the Flash Encoder installed and was wondering how you tell Edius to intergrate with the Encoder so that you can create a flash file from the Edius timeline. Thanks Martin Australia

April 14th, 2009, 07:11 PM	#13
Martin Duffy Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 156	Flash fix for Edius 5 There is a fix to the problem from the Edius people themselves: Quote below regarding Flash exporting, EDIUS requires installing Adobe CS3 Professional (not CS4) to export to .flv from EDIUS timeline. You can't install Adobe CS4 for this purpose, because CS3 supports to import a source file via QuickTime bridge component (EDIUS uses this function to support exporting to .flv), however CS4 doesn't support this function. We have requested the marketing team supporting .flv in combination with CS4 in the future.