Simultaneous HDV and SD recording? at DVinfo.net

Mathew Jones · June 16th, 2006, 03:51 PM

Among the XL H1, the HD 100u, and the HVX 200, which if any camera simultaneously records a 4:2:0 HDV signal and a 4:1:1 SD signal incorporating an external device such as a Firestore with the cam? I understand several output SD signals, but aren't those composite feeds for monitoring purposes?

I've searched a lot of the forums here and can't quite nail this down. Any help is greatly appreciated.

Barry Green · June 16th, 2006, 05:30 PM

I think none of those can do it. The only one that might be able to is the Z1/FX1, and I'm not sure whether it can do a live downconvert or if it's done upon playback.

Douglas Spotted Eagle · June 16th, 2006, 08:41 PM

FX1, Z1, A1U, HC1, HC3...HDV to tape or external HDV device, while using an Nnovia A2d recording the composite out of the cam. Composite is always SD.
No device I'm aware of can *record* multiple formats in the lower cost category.

Barry Green · June 16th, 2006, 09:16 PM

I think any of the cams from any manufacturer can do it through composite to an A2D; I thought the question was specifically via firewire?

If so, I think only the Sonys do a live firewire downconvert. The camera itself can't record both, of course, so you'd record HDV internally and a downrezzed DV on the firestore.

Douglas Spotted Eagle · June 16th, 2006, 10:28 PM

Yes, the Sony can do live downconvert, I guess I was thinking in another mental zone. Chalk it up to pain meds. :-)
You can record firewire SD to the Nnovia or whatever, while recording HDV on tape.

Mathew Jones · June 19th, 2006, 04:20 PM

Thanks much for the info!

Kevin Shaw · June 20th, 2006, 01:17 AM

Yes, the Sony HDV cameras definitely work for this. You have to go into the menus and set the firewire output to DV downconvert, while making sure your recording mode to tape is set to HDV. Works like a charm; just remember to reset the firewire output to HDV when you want to capture that from tape.

June 16th, 2006, 03:51 PM	#1
Mathew Jones New Boot Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 13	Simultaneous HDV and SD recording? Among the XL H1, the HD 100u, and the HVX 200, which if any camera simultaneously records a 4:2:0 HDV signal and a 4:1:1 SD signal incorporating an external device such as a Firestore with the cam? I understand several output SD signals, but aren't those composite feeds for monitoring purposes? I've searched a lot of the forums here and can't quite nail this down. Any help is greatly appreciated.

June 16th, 2006, 08:41 PM	#3
Douglas Spotted Eagle VASST Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Stockton, UT Posts: 5,648	FX1, Z1, A1U, HC1, HC3...HDV to tape or external HDV device, while using an Nnovia A2d recording the composite out of the cam. Composite is always SD. No device I'm aware of can record multiple formats in the lower cost category. __________________ Douglas Spotted Eagle/Spot Author, producer, composer Certified Sony Vegas Trainer http://www.vasst.com

June 16th, 2006, 10:28 PM	#5
Douglas Spotted Eagle VASST Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Stockton, UT Posts: 5,648	Yes, the Sony can do live downconvert, I guess I was thinking in another mental zone. Chalk it up to pain meds. :-) You can record firewire SD to the Nnovia or whatever, while recording HDV on tape. __________________ Douglas Spotted Eagle/Spot Author, producer, composer Certified Sony Vegas Trainer http://www.vasst.com

June 16th, 2006, 05:30 PM	#2
Barry Green Barry Wan Kenobi Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: North Carolina Posts: 3,863	I think none of those can do it. The only one that might be able to is the Z1/FX1, and I'm not sure whether it can do a live downconvert or if it's done upon playback.

June 16th, 2006, 09:16 PM	#4
Barry Green Barry Wan Kenobi Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: North Carolina Posts: 3,863	I think any of the cams from any manufacturer can do it through composite to an A2D; I thought the question was specifically via firewire? If so, I think only the Sonys do a live firewire downconvert. The camera itself can't record both, of course, so you'd record HDV internally and a downrezzed DV on the firestore.

June 19th, 2006, 04:20 PM	#6
Mathew Jones New Boot Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 13	Thanks much for the info!

June 20th, 2006, 01:17 AM	#7
Kevin Shaw Inner Circle Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 2,488	Yes, the Sony HDV cameras definitely work for this. You have to go into the menus and set the firewire output to DV downconvert, while making sure your recording mode to tape is set to HDV. Works like a charm; just remember to reset the firewire output to HDV when you want to capture that from tape.