HDV image quality comparison

Laurence Kingston · January 25th, 2006, 09:21 AM

As an A1 owner, I'm thrilled that it is in the same ballpark as the more expensive cams. The only thing that really impressed me enough to justify the extra money on the other cams was the XL-H1's low light sample. All I can say is "wow"!

Douglas Spotted Eagle · January 25th, 2006, 09:43 AM

No, I will not provide the information. The hack voids warranties, and I'm not really looking to get Sony tweaked at me. It's out there.... just like hacks for other cameras. I don't at all advocate the procedure, I'm just saying that the two imagers are the same.

Graham Hickling · January 25th, 2006, 12:33 PM

Wayne, the only threads I've seen have been rather like the HD1 thread we were both on earlier this week - i.e., promising, not fully developed, and kinda left hanging in mid-air...

David Kennett · January 25th, 2006, 03:48 PM

As long as were asking for more test images, I would like to see either actual clips or stills from cameras while doing a slow tilt. This would be of a resolution chart primarily. If there is no motion, 1080i should have an advantage. My question is how much the res degrades on the interlaced during motion.

January 27th, 2006, 12:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robert Niemann

1. "Soon" the ProHD concept will be enhanced with two PCM audio tracks to use the full MiniDV bandwidth of 25 megabit per second (up to now ProHD uses only 19 Mbit/s). Maybe, with a firmware update, perhaps with a successor of the HD100 presented at NAB 2006.

Available when?

Mark Donnell · January 27th, 2006, 01:35 PM

It seems that many of the HDV experts are on this thread. I was waiting for the HVX-200, but am re-thinking the possibility of going HDV. I shoot mostly sports, and really want to stay with progressive scan. I haven't yet reseached the HDV market - are there camcorders that record in 720p, perhaps at 30 fps ? I would favor a handheld instead of a shoulder camera.

Graham Hickling · January 27th, 2006, 02:00 PM

The JVC HD1 and HD10 are (slightly bulky) handhelds that record 720p30, 480p60, and DV.

David Kennett · January 28th, 2006, 08:24 AM

Mark,

Graham mentioned the 480p60 mode of JVCs. It is definitely better than DV, 60 frames, progressive. Slow-mo, stills without all that interlacing problem. Plus you still have the other alternatives.

Alister Chapman · January 28th, 2006, 12:01 PM

Mark.. If you shoot sports I would really think you would be better off with interlace at 50/60i rather than 25/30p progressive. 60P would be nice, but thats gonna cost megabucks.

Mark Donnell · January 28th, 2006, 10:46 PM

Thanks, everyone. Now I'll do the homework with a little better focus !

January 25th, 2006, 09:43 AM	#17
Douglas Spotted Eagle VASST Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Stockton, UT Posts: 5,648	No, I will not provide the information. The hack voids warranties, and I'm not really looking to get Sony tweaked at me. It's out there.... just like hacks for other cameras. I don't at all advocate the procedure, I'm just saying that the two imagers are the same. __________________ Douglas Spotted Eagle/Spot Author, producer, composer Certified Sony Vegas Trainer http://www.vasst.com

January 25th, 2006, 03:48 PM	#19
David Kennett Major Player Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: North Ridgeville, Ohio Posts: 407	As long as were asking for more test images, I would like to see either actual clips or stills from cameras while doing a slow tilt. This would be of a resolution chart primarily. If there is no motion, 1080i should have an advantage. My question is how much the res degrades on the interlaced during motion. __________________ Dave

January 27th, 2006, 01:35 PM	#21
Mark Donnell Major Player Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Silver City, NM Posts: 385	HDV at 720p ? It seems that many of the HDV experts are on this thread. I was waiting for the HVX-200, but am re-thinking the possibility of going HDV. I shoot mostly sports, and really want to stay with progressive scan. I haven't yet reseached the HDV market - are there camcorders that record in 720p, perhaps at 30 fps ? I would favor a handheld instead of a shoulder camera.

January 28th, 2006, 08:24 AM	#23
David Kennett Major Player Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: North Ridgeville, Ohio Posts: 407	Mark, Graham mentioned the 480p60 mode of JVCs. It is definitely better than DV, 60 frames, progressive. Slow-mo, stills without all that interlacing problem. Plus you still have the other alternatives. __________________ Dave

January 28th, 2006, 12:01 PM	#24
Alister Chapman Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Bracknell, Berkshire, UK Posts: 4,957	Mark.. If you shoot sports I would really think you would be better off with interlace at 50/60i rather than 25/30p progressive. 60P would be nice, but thats gonna cost megabucks. __________________ Alister Chapman, Film-Maker/Stormchaser http://www.xdcam-user.com/alisters-blog/ My XDCAM site and blog. http://www.hurricane-rig.com

January 25th, 2006, 09:21 AM	#16
Laurence Kingston Major Player Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Clermont, FL. Posts: 941	As an A1 owner, I'm thrilled that it is in the same ballpark as the more expensive cams. The only thing that really impressed me enough to justify the extra money on the other cams was the XL-H1's low light sample. All I can say is "wow"!

January 25th, 2006, 12:33 PM	#18
Graham Hickling Trustee Join Date: May 2004 Location: Knoxville, Tennessee Posts: 1,669	Wayne, the only threads I've seen have been rather like the HD1 thread we were both on earlier this week - i.e., promising, not fully developed, and kinda left hanging in mid-air...

January 27th, 2006, 02:00 PM	#22
Graham Hickling Trustee Join Date: May 2004 Location: Knoxville, Tennessee Posts: 1,669	The JVC HD1 and HD10 are (slightly bulky) handhelds that record 720p30, 480p60, and DV.

January 28th, 2006, 10:46 PM	#25
Mark Donnell Major Player Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Silver City, NM Posts: 385	Thanks, everyone. Now I'll do the homework with a little better focus !