So what is next in line for an HDV cam?

Anhar Miah · December 15th, 2005, 09:13 PM

I personally think that the 1/3" Cameras has been pushed to the limits, its probably time to move up to "prosumer" 2/3" that will be the next "Killer" feature.

BUT making 2/3" "prosumer" camera without killing their other 2/3" "pro" cameras is probably the only thing stopping manufacturers making them.

Mind you If you use HDV compression (or some other limiting compression) Plus Fixed lens THEN maybe then it might be crippled enough to make such cameras.

Anhar

Konrad Haskins · December 15th, 2005, 09:29 PM

The Sony XDCAM HD @ $20K has a lot more features the Panny HDX400 @ $32K which is 1080i60 period. But as always picture quality will decide.

Barry Green · December 15th, 2005, 09:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Konrad Haskins

I'd be happy with a revamped Z1 with better low light and HDV noise levels of the Canon H1.

The Z1 already has lower noise levels than the Canon H1...

Konrad Haskins · December 15th, 2005, 10:09 PM

Barry,

When I can rent all the new HD cams I'm going to do my own shoot out to find my next cam. I've read a lot online that the noise in shadows is lower with the H1. But you are the master so I'll take your word for it.

Thanks

Barry Green · December 16th, 2005, 02:32 AM

Just basing it on what I saw at DV Expo, not through exhaustive comparison testing (yet). Looks to me like the Z1 is a bit cleaner than the XLH1.

Shannon could perhaps throw some footage together to test that for us though!

Wayne Morellini · December 20th, 2005, 12:15 PM

Maybe people can post what they see and hear at CES here (or start a CES news thread) for Chris to lookup when he hits the show.

By the way, saw a picture of the HDV GL and one of the HDV like Everio already, so hopefully we might see something at the CES.

January 6th, 2006, 08:02 PM

Kurth, you are right again. Cost and quality will drive the market. Did you give some thought to my camera info. I sent you?
Thanks!

Kurth Bousman · January 6th, 2006, 11:56 PM

David - sorry - it got junked . I'll drop you a return email about that topic.- Kurth

December 15th, 2005, 09:13 PM	#16
Anhar Miah Major Player Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: United Kindom, England Posts: 290	2/3" the Way I personally think that the 1/3" Cameras has been pushed to the limits, its probably time to move up to "prosumer" 2/3" that will be the next "Killer" feature. BUT making 2/3" "prosumer" camera without killing their other 2/3" "pro" cameras is probably the only thing stopping manufacturers making them. Mind you If you use HDV compression (or some other limiting compression) Plus Fixed lens THEN maybe then it might be crippled enough to make such cameras. Anhar __________________ The IT Ninja Learn, Teach, Grow..

January 6th, 2006, 08:02 PM	#22
David Anderson Posts: n/a	Cost driven Kurth, you are right again. Cost and quality will drive the market. Did you give some thought to my camera info. I sent you? Thanks!

December 15th, 2005, 09:29 PM	#17
Konrad Haskins Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 148	The Sony XDCAM HD @ $20K has a lot more features the Panny HDX400 @ $32K which is 1080i60 period. But as always picture quality will decide.

December 15th, 2005, 10:09 PM	#19
Konrad Haskins Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 148	Barry, When I can rent all the new HD cams I'm going to do my own shoot out to find my next cam. I've read a lot online that the noise in shadows is lower with the H1. But you are the master so I'll take your word for it. Thanks

December 16th, 2005, 02:32 AM	#20
Barry Green Barry Wan Kenobi Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: North Carolina Posts: 3,863	Just basing it on what I saw at DV Expo, not through exhaustive comparison testing (yet). Looks to me like the Z1 is a bit cleaner than the XLH1. Shannon could perhaps throw some footage together to test that for us though!

December 20th, 2005, 12:15 PM	#21
Wayne Morellini Inner Circle Join Date: May 2003 Location: Australia Posts: 2,762	Maybe people can post what they see and hear at CES here (or start a CES news thread) for Chris to lookup when he hits the show. By the way, saw a picture of the HDV GL and one of the HDV like Everio already, so hopefully we might see something at the CES.

January 6th, 2006, 11:56 PM	#23
Kurth Bousman Major Player Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: san miguel allende , gto , mexico Posts: 644	David - sorry - it got junked . I'll drop you a return email about that topic.- Kurth