"Five Reasons" - Super 16 / HD Cam / Varicam HD / Digital Beta at DVinfo.net

Miguel Lopez · November 30th, 2005, 09:01 AM

In this website you can download the same 720p videos shot in all those formats.
But when i was watching the varicam video, i though: the DOF here is very low for a 2/3" camera.
Then i looked the HDcam, which should look the same. ANd it does look like a 2/3" camera.
So... did they use a pro35 on the varicam and they are not telling it?

The 16mm footage is awesome. I had never seen 16mm footage that looked so well. It is not much worse than any standard 35mm film!

http://www.hd-channel.com/index.html?/programme.html

Richard Alvarez · November 30th, 2005, 09:08 AM

Miguel,

Do you have a link for this website?

Nick Jushchyshyn · November 30th, 2005, 09:20 AM

Maybe this page? (in German)
http://www.hd-channel.com/index.html?/programme.html

Miguel Lopez · November 30th, 2005, 10:09 AM

Quite strange. There are shots where the HCAM has less DOF than others, other shots where the varicam is the one with shorter DOF, other ones where the 16mm is...

They had to be swaping the pro35 during takes...

Nick Jushchyshyn · November 30th, 2005, 10:27 AM

DOF is a function of aperture as well as "film back" size.
It could be that this was adjusted from shot-to-shot.

Keith Wakeham · November 30th, 2005, 01:34 PM

This is a great comparison. The Varicam and the HDcam look softer than the 16mm, while the 16mm is shaper, it has more noise in the picture. The HDcam and the Varicam also seem to have a shallower DOF in some shots. Only looked at it quickly though. But still its a great comparison.

Florian Stronski · November 30th, 2005, 06:10 PM

In the 670MB big file the show A/B comparisons of all Formats and provide information about the lenses used. It's in german but they have subtitles for the lenses used. According to that they used the P+S Technik Pro35 Adapter with the HDCams (but probably not in every shot, it's a little unprecise).

November 30th, 2005, 09:01 AM	#1
Miguel Lopez Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Madrid, Spain Posts: 187	"Five Reasons" - Super 16 / HD Cam / Varicam HD / Digital Beta In this website you can download the same 720p videos shot in all those formats. But when i was watching the varicam video, i though: the DOF here is very low for a 2/3" camera. Then i looked the HDcam, which should look the same. ANd it does look like a 2/3" camera. So... did they use a pro35 on the varicam and they are not telling it? The 16mm footage is awesome. I had never seen 16mm footage that looked so well. It is not much worse than any standard 35mm film! http://www.hd-channel.com/index.html?/programme.html Last edited by Miguel Lopez; November 30th, 2005 at 09:48 AM.

November 30th, 2005, 09:20 AM	#3
Nick Jushchyshyn Major Player Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Philadelphia, PA, USA Posts: 548	Maybe this page? (in German) http://www.hd-channel.com/index.html?/programme.html __________________ Nick Jushchyshyn Matchmoving, Compositing, TD imdb

November 30th, 2005, 10:27 AM	#5
Nick Jushchyshyn Major Player Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Philadelphia, PA, USA Posts: 548	DOF is a function of aperture as well as "film back" size. It could be that this was adjusted from shot-to-shot. __________________ Nick Jushchyshyn Matchmoving, Compositing, TD imdb

November 30th, 2005, 01:34 PM	#6
Keith Wakeham Major Player Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: St. John's, NL, Canada Posts: 416	This is a great comparison. The Varicam and the HDcam look softer than the 16mm, while the 16mm is shaper, it has more noise in the picture. The HDcam and the Varicam also seem to have a shallower DOF in some shots. Only looked at it quickly though. But still its a great comparison. __________________ www.engr.mun.ca/~wakeham/index.htm

November 30th, 2005, 06:10 PM	#7
Florian Stronski Tourist Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: munich germany Posts: 4	In the 670MB big file the show A/B comparisons of all Formats and provide information about the lenses used. It's in german but they have subtitles for the lenses used. According to that they used the P+S Technik Pro35 Adapter with the HDCams (but probably not in every shot, it's a little unprecise). Last edited by Florian Stronski; December 1st, 2005 at 03:47 AM.

November 30th, 2005, 09:08 AM	#2
Richard Alvarez Inner Circle Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: San Mateo, CA Posts: 3,840	Miguel, Do you have a link for this website?

November 30th, 2005, 10:09 AM	#4
Miguel Lopez Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Madrid, Spain Posts: 187	Quite strange. There are shots where the HCAM has less DOF than others, other shots where the varicam is the one with shorter DOF, other ones where the 16mm is... They had to be swaping the pro35 during takes...