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Keith Wakeham · October 18th, 2005, 03:53 PM

With the upcoming XL HD1 and all the HD-SDI Box camers out their and the available adapters for component to HD-SDI, I was curious what peoples interest is in a HD-SDI recorder.

If say, a portable hd-sdi recorder that recorded uncompressed HD (no compression what so ever), could connect to a computer through a HD-SDI out or through firewire with a special processing application would you be interested. How much would it be worth to you. By portable I mean about the size of a FS-3 without a battery.

Very basic deck with few features but still uncompressed and could be used as a playback device (hd-sdi). Basic things like frame search, simple timecode, and rec/play all that their is. Is it a shoot tool you would use?

I don't want to reveal exactly what I'm getting at to soon, so sorry about being kind of vague.

K. Forman · October 18th, 2005, 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Keith Wakeham

With the upcoming XL HD1 and all the HD-SDI Box camers out their and the available adapters for component to HD-SDI, I was curious what peoples interest is in a HD-SDI recorder.

If say, a portable hd-sdi recorder that recorded uncompressed HD (no compression what so ever), could connect to a computer through a HD-SDI out or through firewire with a special processing application would you be interested. How much would it be worth to you. By portable I mean about the size of a FS-3 without a battery.

Very basic deck with few features but still uncompressed and could be used as a playback device (hd-sdi). Basic things like frame search, simple timecode, and rec/play all that their is. Is it a shoot tool you would use?

I don't want to reveal exactly what I'm getting at to soon, so sorry about being kind of vague.

You forgot to mention "affordable".

Keith Wakeham · October 18th, 2005, 04:17 PM

Indeed I did forget, but that was what I was getting at but I also wanted to see what people were thinking in terms of what they themselves felt is affordable.

K. Forman · October 18th, 2005, 05:35 PM

What is affordable? I suppose that will vary from person to person. There are those who can drop $10,000 on a new cam, and barely flinch. Then there are people like myself, who barely work enough to consider this more than a hobby, and are forced to rely on their cam pulling double duty. Spending $1,500 for a decent deck is out of the question.

It does sound like a wonderful thought though, being portable. Can you whip up a really nice, portable harddisk audio recorder too? That is something I could really use!

Keith Wakeham · October 18th, 2005, 05:43 PM

Little off topic but I think that their are already some digital audio recorders available now. Didn't see it at M-audio's site but heres a link to the engadget story

http://www.engadget.com/entry/1234000840051727/

Although if you are considering to use HD-SDI you probably don't have a consumer camera since that datarate is 1.485 Gbps uncompressed (after active range 150 megabytes/second) so something like this would only be targetted to pros.

K. Forman · October 18th, 2005, 06:07 PM

I have a standard def GL1, not ready to move up to HD quite yet. As far as audio recorders, there are some that are available, that are truly portable. I like the Alesis Deva... the price is what chokes me though. The more affordable ones, $1,500 are nice, but usually don't have much space or channels. The really affordable ones... like the iRivers and such, just won't cut it for me.

Alexander Kitaev · October 20th, 2005, 08:10 AM

Hi,
We have one
http://ctt.ru/products/hd/flash_dvr/
it's in russian, english will be some later
base model have 20GB on board, 3min in HD or 6min with LS codec.
also 40GB, 80, or 160GB models possible too.
HDSDI IN/OUT, 8" TFT LCD option.
price from $4800 USD
WELCOME

Serge Victorovich · October 27th, 2005, 10:33 AM

Very nice. Can you add jpeg2000 codec based on adv202 chip?

Alexander Kitaev · October 28th, 2005, 03:22 AM

Yes, we have such plan, some later, but using our FPGA, now we testing soft,
and codec will be available as free upgrade.

Serge Victorovich · February 1st, 2006, 04:51 AM

Alexander, any news?

Michael Struthers · July 28th, 2006, 03:13 PM

This is exactly what I want. An HD-SDI in with maybe a firewire out so I can slap it on my hip, record all day, and dump off to a computer at night.

And I'll pay 2k for it.

Someone has to make one sooner or later...

Yasser Kassana · September 12th, 2006, 04:48 AM

This does sound very promising. Any updates?

October 18th, 2005, 03:53 PM	#1
Keith Wakeham Major Player Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: St. John's, NL, Canada Posts: 416	HD-SDI Recorder With the upcoming XL HD1 and all the HD-SDI Box camers out their and the available adapters for component to HD-SDI, I was curious what peoples interest is in a HD-SDI recorder. If say, a portable hd-sdi recorder that recorded uncompressed HD (no compression what so ever), could connect to a computer through a HD-SDI out or through firewire with a special processing application would you be interested. How much would it be worth to you. By portable I mean about the size of a FS-3 without a battery. Very basic deck with few features but still uncompressed and could be used as a playback device (hd-sdi). Basic things like frame search, simple timecode, and rec/play all that their is. Is it a shoot tool you would use? I don't want to reveal exactly what I'm getting at to soon, so sorry about being kind of vague. __________________ www.engr.mun.ca/~wakeham/index.htm

October 18th, 2005, 04:17 PM	#3
Keith Wakeham Major Player Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: St. John's, NL, Canada Posts: 416	Indeed I did forget, but that was what I was getting at but I also wanted to see what people were thinking in terms of what they themselves felt is affordable. __________________ www.engr.mun.ca/~wakeham/index.htm

October 18th, 2005, 05:35 PM	#4
K. Forman Capt. Quirk Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Middle of the woods in Georgia Posts: 3,596	What is affordable? I suppose that will vary from person to person. There are those who can drop $10,000 on a new cam, and barely flinch. Then there are people like myself, who barely work enough to consider this more than a hobby, and are forced to rely on their cam pulling double duty. Spending $1,500 for a decent deck is out of the question. It does sound like a wonderful thought though, being portable. Can you whip up a really nice, portable harddisk audio recorder too? That is something I could really use! __________________ www.SmokeWagonLeather.us

October 18th, 2005, 05:43 PM	#5
Keith Wakeham Major Player Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: St. John's, NL, Canada Posts: 416	Little off topic but I think that their are already some digital audio recorders available now. Didn't see it at M-audio's site but heres a link to the engadget story http://www.engadget.com/entry/1234000840051727/ Although if you are considering to use HD-SDI you probably don't have a consumer camera since that datarate is 1.485 Gbps uncompressed (after active range 150 megabytes/second) so something like this would only be targetted to pros. __________________ www.engr.mun.ca/~wakeham/index.htm

October 18th, 2005, 06:07 PM	#6
K. Forman Capt. Quirk Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Middle of the woods in Georgia Posts: 3,596	I have a standard def GL1, not ready to move up to HD quite yet. As far as audio recorders, there are some that are available, that are truly portable. I like the Alesis Deva... the price is what chokes me though. The more affordable ones, $1,500 are nice, but usually don't have much space or channels. The really affordable ones... like the iRivers and such, just won't cut it for me. __________________ www.SmokeWagonLeather.us

October 20th, 2005, 08:10 AM	#7
Alexander Kitaev New Boot Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Moscow Russia Posts: 6	Hi, We have one http://ctt.ru/products/hd/flash_dvr/ it's in russian, english will be some later base model have 20GB on board, 3min in HD or 6min with LS codec. also 40GB, 80, or 160GB models possible too. HDSDI IN/OUT, 8" TFT LCD option. price from $4800 USD WELCOME

October 27th, 2005, 10:33 AM	#8
Serge Victorovich Major Player Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 376	Very nice. Can you add jpeg2000 codec based on adv202 chip?

October 28th, 2005, 03:22 AM	#9
Alexander Kitaev New Boot Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Moscow Russia Posts: 6	Yes, we have such plan, some later, but using our FPGA, now we testing soft, and codec will be available as free upgrade.

February 1st, 2006, 04:51 AM	#10
Serge Victorovich Major Player Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 376	Alexander, any news?

July 28th, 2006, 03:13 PM	#11
Michael Struthers Major Player Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: SF, Ca Posts: 421	This is exactly what I want. An HD-SDI in with maybe a firewire out so I can slap it on my hip, record all day, and dump off to a computer at night. And I'll pay 2k for it. Someone has to make one sooner or later... __________________ Michael Struthers www.buzzdigital.com

September 12th, 2006, 04:48 AM	#12
Yasser Kassana Major Player Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: UK Posts: 223	This does sound very promising. Any updates?