Are there any compact cameras recording like a good videocamera?

Robert Morane · April 21st, 2013, 08:35 AM

It really depend what you intend to do. I was tempted by the RX100 but the lack of an EVF made me choose the LX7.
Panasonic Lumix LX7 in Isla Mujeres Mexico - YouTube

Adriano Moroni · April 21st, 2013, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Ron Evans

I wanted the HX20 which never came to Canada so I got the HX30V.

I enjoy so much with many interesting news. Can you tell me what differences between HX30V and HX20V about video quality?

Mark Rosenzweig · April 21st, 2013, 03:02 PM

The Hx20 and Hx30 are identical in video and stills quality. The Hx30 has wifi. Both cameras are now discontinued by Sony. There is no successor, yet.

Adriano Moroni · April 21st, 2013, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Mark Rosenzweig

The best small, compact camera for video, including low-light, is the Panasonic LX7. Full manual mode in video, and 1080p. RAW stills, f1.4 lens. See, for example:

If you need a pocketable 20X zoom, the Panasonic ZS30 (TZ40) also has 108060p and fine video

I'm sorry but I don't understand the difference between Panasonic ZS30 and TZ40.
About TZ40 can you tell me something about battery? Is it true you can recharge the battery only inside the camera? It is bad.

Mark Rosenzweig · April 21st, 2013, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Adriano Moroni

I'm sorry but I don't understand the difference between Panasonic ZS30 and TZ40.
About TZ40 can you tell me something about battery? Is it true you can recharge the battery only inside the camera? It is bad.

The TZ40 is the European (PAL video) version of the ZS30 (NTSC video). Otherwise the same.

Yes. You can charge the battery inside the camera. If you purchase a charger, you can also charge the battery outside the camera. Few other Panasonic cameras allow you to charge the battery inside the camera - in-camera charging is a feature, not a deficiency. The new Panasonic TS5 (FT5) uses the same battery as the ZS30 (TZ40). It comes with a charger, but you cannot charge the battery in the camera.

Adriano Moroni · April 22nd, 2013, 12:59 AM

What a pity!
I have just seen many samples on the net and the video I like more is that recorded by Lumix DMC LX7 but it has a so little zoom ... therefore I'm considering to purchase Panasonic Lumix TZ40 or Sony HX20v (now discontinued... mmmm ) with less video quality but with more zoom. I need zoom for my travels.

>Mark Rosenzweig
Why is Lumix TZ40 better than Sony HX20v?

PS: Are there some compact cameras with rotating LCD Display like Sony Alpha NEX-5N?

Ron Evans · April 22nd, 2013, 09:11 AM

HX50V video just posted from Sony on Youtube

Ron Evans

Robert Morane · April 22nd, 2013, 10:10 AM

very interesting camera and the video show and EVF, even if it is adding cost this would make it a fantastic little package for travel (let's hope they also added a mic input).

Adriano Moroni · April 22nd, 2013, 10:13 AM

It seems better than every other compact.

Arnie Schlissel · April 22nd, 2013, 10:18 AM

If you don't mind waiting till this July (or later, if they miss their delivery date): Blackmagic Design: Blackmagic Pocket Cinema Camera

Adriano Moroni · April 22nd, 2013, 12:30 PM

What is the zoom lens of basic Blackmagic Pocket Cinema Camera?

Ron Evans · April 22nd, 2013, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Robert Morane

very interesting camera and the video show and EVF, even if it is adding cost this would make it a fantastic little package for travel (let's hope they also added a mic input).

The mic attachment was also shown on the video if you missed it.

Ron Evans

Ron Evans · April 22nd, 2013, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Adriano Moroni

What is the zoom lens of basic Blackmagic Pocket Cinema Camera?

It doesn't come with a lens you have to buy them separately. It will only shoot progressive up to 30P so for me not useful for other than the film look that I do not like. Much prefer higher frame rates to capture smooth motion. That means 60P for me now. Of no interest to me.

Ron Evans

John McCully · April 22nd, 2013, 03:18 PM

The soon to be announced HX50v - yes indeed, as you said Robert, a very interesting camera, a fantastic little package for sure. The EVF looks like the EVF I purchased for my NEX 5n which is orders of magnitude better than the EVF on the HX200v and the HX300 so that’s a huge plus. Improved image stabilization...

I want one.

Many thanks for posting the video Ron.

Robert Morane · April 22nd, 2013, 03:34 PM

Ron, I watch it again and saw the mic.
Wabadabadou!!!!

April 21st, 2013, 08:35 AM	#16
Robert Morane Major Player Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 267	Re: Are there any compact cameras recording like a good videocamera? It really depend what you intend to do. I was tempted by the RX100 but the lack of an EVF made me choose the LX7. Panasonic Lumix LX7 in Isla Mujeres Mexico - YouTube __________________ Measure twice, cut once!

April 21st, 2013, 03:02 PM	#18
Mark Rosenzweig Trustee Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: New Haven, CT Posts: 1,004	Re: Are there any compact cameras recording like a good videocamera? The Hx20 and Hx30 are identical in video and stills quality. The Hx30 has wifi. Both cameras are now discontinued by Sony. There is no successor, yet.

April 22nd, 2013, 12:59 AM	#21
Adriano Moroni Major Player Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Rome Italy Posts: 676	Re: Are there any compact cameras recording like a good videocamera? What a pity! I have just seen many samples on the net and the video I like more is that recorded by Lumix DMC LX7 but it has a so little zoom ... therefore I'm considering to purchase Panasonic Lumix TZ40 or Sony HX20v (now discontinued... mmmm ) with less video quality but with more zoom. I need zoom for my travels. >Mark Rosenzweig Why is Lumix TZ40 better than Sony HX20v? PS: Are there some compact cameras with rotating LCD Display like Sony Alpha NEX-5N? __________________ A lonesome traveler looking for lost tribes around the world: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCdv...DrZCaaw/videos Last edited by Adriano Moroni; April 22nd, 2013 at 04:22 AM.

April 22nd, 2013, 09:11 AM	#22
Ron Evans Inner Circle Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada Posts: 4,220	Re: Are there any compact cameras recording like a good videocamera? HX50V video just posted from Sony on Youtube Sony CyberShot HX50V - YouTube Ron Evans

April 22nd, 2013, 10:10 AM	#23
Robert Morane Major Player Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 267	Re: Are there any compact cameras recording like a good videocamera? very interesting camera and the video show and EVF, even if it is adding cost this would make it a fantastic little package for travel (let's hope they also added a mic input). __________________ Measure twice, cut once!

April 22nd, 2013, 10:13 AM	#24
Adriano Moroni Major Player Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Rome Italy Posts: 676	Re: Are there any compact cameras recording like a good videocamera? It seems better than every other compact. __________________ A lonesome traveler looking for lost tribes around the world: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCdv...DrZCaaw/videos

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Arnie Schlissel Major Player Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: New York NY Posts: 322	Re: Are there any compact cameras recording like a good videocamera? If you don't mind waiting till this July (or later, if they miss their delivery date): Blackmagic Design: Blackmagic Pocket Cinema Camera __________________ Post production is not an afterthought! www.arniepix.com

April 22nd, 2013, 12:30 PM	#26
Adriano Moroni Major Player Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Rome Italy Posts: 676	Re: Are there any compact cameras recording like a good videocamera? What is the zoom lens of basic Blackmagic Pocket Cinema Camera? __________________ A lonesome traveler looking for lost tribes around the world: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCdv...DrZCaaw/videos

April 22nd, 2013, 03:18 PM	#29
John McCully Major Player Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: South Island, New Zealand Posts: 609 Images: 2	Re: Are there any compact cameras recording like a good videocamera? The soon to be announced HX50v - yes indeed, as you said Robert, a very interesting camera, a fantastic little package for sure. The EVF looks like the EVF I purchased for my NEX 5n which is orders of magnitude better than the EVF on the HX200v and the HX300 so that’s a huge plus. Improved image stabilization... I want one. Many thanks for posting the video Ron.

April 22nd, 2013, 03:34 PM	#30
Robert Morane Major Player Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 267	Re: Are there any compact cameras recording like a good videocamera? Ron, I watch it again and saw the mic. Wabadabadou!!!! __________________ Measure twice, cut once!