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Bill Putnam · November 23rd, 2010, 08:53 AM

Hi folks,
I'm new here and have a question about editing packages with more than one fps rate.

Lets say I shot footage at 1080p24 and my buddy shot the same event at 1080p30. Can you mix the two into the same project in Premiere CS4? Will there be any issues involved?

I normally shoot everything at 1080p24 for the sake of consistency. But every so often I run across an outlier who shoots at a different fps rate :)

Thanks!

Sareesh Sudhakaran · November 23rd, 2010, 10:21 PM

Maybe you are already aware of this, but -

Everything will be conformed to the project settings in Premiere Pro. In this case you must specify one frame rate and all other frame rates will be conformed (converted) to this setting.

You need to test whether the footage looks good - when your friend's is converted to yours or when yours is converted to his. It's a subjective thing. It also depends on what you are outputting to, and what your final (delivery) format will be.

Hope this helps.

Aaron Holmes · November 24th, 2010, 02:27 PM

My gut tells me that converting 30p to 24p or vice versa isn't going to look too nice. If I had to do it, my inclination would be convert both at 720p60. Maybe 1080i60.

In Encore, timelines can have end actions that point to other timelines. AFAIK, the timelines don't have to be of the same format. Consequently, if all you're trying to do is basically create a video slideshow, and if all of your formats are, e.g., Blu-ray compatible formats (which 1080p30 is not), then one ought to be able to simply daisychain timelines like this without changing the resolution or framerate (adding a dips to/from black on the ends of the timelines might not be a bad idea so as to avoid anyone noticing the short transition delay), however a presentation like this is probably not what you're after. :)

Best,
Aaron

Rusty Rogers · November 25th, 2010, 05:54 PM

I've been using Grass Valley's Edius for years and easily mix frame rates, image dimensions and filetypes without conforming or transcoding anything.
The current exception is the newest Nikon .mov files.
Otherwise, it's pretty easy.

November 23rd, 2010, 08:53 AM	#1
Bill Putnam Tourist Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Washington, D.C., USA Posts: 4	multiple fps in same project Hi folks, I'm new here and have a question about editing packages with more than one fps rate. Lets say I shot footage at 1080p24 and my buddy shot the same event at 1080p30. Can you mix the two into the same project in Premiere CS4? Will there be any issues involved? I normally shoot everything at 1080p24 for the sake of consistency. But every so often I run across an outlier who shoots at a different fps rate :) Thanks!

November 23rd, 2010, 10:21 PM	#2
Sareesh Sudhakaran Trustee Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Mumbai, India Posts: 1,385	Maybe you are already aware of this, but - Everything will be conformed to the project settings in Premiere Pro. In this case you must specify one frame rate and all other frame rates will be conformed (converted) to this setting. You need to test whether the footage looks good - when your friend's is converted to yours or when yours is converted to his. It's a subjective thing. It also depends on what you are outputting to, and what your final (delivery) format will be. Hope this helps. __________________ Get the Free Comprehensive Guide to Rigging ANY Camera - one guide to rig them all - DSLRs to the Arri Alexa.

November 24th, 2010, 02:27 PM	#3
Aaron Holmes Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 145	My gut tells me that converting 30p to 24p or vice versa isn't going to look too nice. If I had to do it, my inclination would be convert both at 720p60. Maybe 1080i60. In Encore, timelines can have end actions that point to other timelines. AFAIK, the timelines don't have to be of the same format. Consequently, if all you're trying to do is basically create a video slideshow, and if all of your formats are, e.g., Blu-ray compatible formats (which 1080p30 is not), then one ought to be able to simply daisychain timelines like this without changing the resolution or framerate (adding a dips to/from black on the ends of the timelines might not be a bad idea so as to avoid anyone noticing the short transition delay), however a presentation like this is probably not what you're after. :) Best, Aaron __________________ Software Engineer, Video Hobbyist -- Sony FDR-AX100, HDR-CX12, Miller DS10/Solo, Premiere CS5.5, DYMO DiscPainter, 2010 Mac Pro 3.33GHz 6c

November 25th, 2010, 05:54 PM	#4
Rusty Rogers Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 177	I've been using Grass Valley's Edius for years and easily mix frame rates, image dimensions and filetypes without conforming or transcoding anything. The current exception is the newest Nikon .mov files. Otherwise, it's pretty easy. __________________ *Rusty* Rusty Rogers \| Films