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July 1st, 2005, 10:25 AM
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Anyone done FX1/ Z1u 60i hdv to 24p files?
Has anyone done 60i hdv to 24p from material shot with the FX1 or Z1u?
If so, are there any clips online of these tests? Pappas |
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July 1st, 2005, 10:33 AM
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We've done a LOT of it. But hosting the files? Nah...too big. Depends entirely on the app used, as to the quality of finished output
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July 3rd, 2005, 04:12 PM
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Douglas,
What do you use to go from 60i on the FX1 to 24p? Magic Bullet with FCP? How would you say it compares to CineFrame on the FX1 and to the native 24p of say the DVX100? Thanks! Douglas |
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July 3rd, 2005, 06:28 PM
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I was going to ask that too! Second that ????
Douglas, is there a way that maybe you could host a clip for a day or two. Your footage that you have gotten with the FX1 is been awesome. Seeing some full res 60i to 24p would be a nice treat to see. Pappas Quote:
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July 3rd, 2005, 06:42 PM
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Magic Bullet in FCP does NOT do 24p. It doesn't de-interlace, and doesn't do a 60i to 24p conversion.
However, you should take a look at my Film Effects or Standards Conversion packages which will do an excellent job of converting HDV 60i to 24p. Free demo, www.nattress.com, try it out on your own footage. Graeme
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July 3rd, 2005, 06:56 PM
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I'll second that for FCP, you really want to try out Graeme's excellent tools for conversion. FAR better than anything else out there. The price of the demo is right too....(free)
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July 3rd, 2005, 07:00 PM
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Thanks! I had a customer who wanted to use the plugin to do a HDV 1080i60 to DVCproHD 720p24 conversion, so the new version I'm working on now (free upgrade) will have much improved downconversion facilities. I'm also adding in some general and useful pulldown addition / removal plugins which can help with workflows involving 3:2 (and advanced) footage.
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July 3rd, 2005, 07:16 PM
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Graeme/Douglas,
Thank you very much for the clarification and suggestion on software. I was misinformed. Graeme, as for your software, (I know you might be a little biased) but can you compare the conversion with your software to native 24p and to the CineFrame in the FX1? Thanks again, Douglas |
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July 3rd, 2005, 07:25 PM
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Douglas, the quality of my conversion is very good. It does look better than CF24, and it looks very comparable to "real" 24p. However, as with all such software it can look a touch stuttery on fast movement. However, real 24p doesn't look too hot on fast movement either. Use the software with well shot footage and I think you'd be very happy indeed.
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July 3rd, 2005, 10:00 PM
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Graeme,
What % of resolution do you believe is lost doing this 60i to 24p conversion on HDV FX1/Z1u material. What's the render time ( approx ) per frame your getting on your system? Have you done a 1080i 60 to 1080p 24? Can your system take the HDV from 4:2:0 to 4:2:2 or higher and do 60i to 24p at the same time? or does this need to be done at different times? Graeme, is there any short clips of your 60i to 24p system that I can watch? Thanks Pappas Last edited by Michael Pappas; July 3rd, 2005 at 10:22 PM. |
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July 4th, 2005, 12:38 AM
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Sony HDR-FX1
http://www.uploadhouse.com/images/88...0704022237.jpg 60i to 23.976 http://www.megaupload.com/?d=24M5RH0X 640x360 5.12megs Xvid codec 60i to 30p http://www.megaupload.com/?d=24YNVHBU 640x360 6.25megs Xvid codec Original clips taken from here: http://www.vasst.com/HDV/FX-1_images-Surfers.htm If anyone has any 24 Cineframe files online let me know. Those can be converted nicely too. I have one on my HDD, but it is not of material to post on this forum (no, not porn). |
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July 4th, 2005, 01:07 AM
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I'll post a CF24 clip in a few minutes, but it will take a good 30 mins for it to fully upload. But, it'll be on the same page as linked above.
http://www.vasst.com/HDV/FX-1_images-Surfers.htm I guess I need to rename that page, eh? :-) It's now up...
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July 4th, 2005, 10:21 AM
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Thank you Douglas!
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July 4th, 2005, 10:23 AM
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Kyle Edwards,
For some reason I can not see your files? Graeme, Did you see the questions above? |
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July 4th, 2005, 12:51 PM
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I can't seem to be able to open the files either. What sort of player/viewer are you using?
Thanks again! Douglas |
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