HDV not good enough? at DVinfo.net

Robert Bobson · April 27th, 2005, 04:59 AM

I recently read that some television channels that specialize in HD programming won't accept HDV programs because it's not up to par with "real" HD. Has anyone else heard of this practice?

bob

Kevin Dooley · April 27th, 2005, 06:09 AM

Didn't the same thing happen with DV? And people just ended up dubbing their final projects to beta/digibeta...

Sure HDV has it's problems, but I say if you give them the project on what they would call an "acceptable" format/tape, and they broadcast it... well, I guess it was good enough then...

Douglas Spotted Eagle · April 27th, 2005, 06:28 AM

I keep hearing this as a rumor, but have yet to see an article by anyone, or any specific "this happened to me" situation. I DO know that the Discovery Channel and a couple of other high profile HD broadcasters HAVE taken HDV as a source. Frankly, as long as it's treated right and delivered on HDCam, I'd find it hard for anyone to tell the difference.

Luis Caffesse · April 27th, 2005, 06:50 AM

"I keep hearing this as a rumor, but have yet to see an article by anyone, or any specific "this happened to me" situation. I DO know that the Discovery Channel and a couple of other high profile HD broadcasters HAVE taken HDV as a source. Frankly, as long as it's treated right and delivered on HDCam, I'd find it hard for anyone to tell the difference."

I have a feeling that this idea began with someone who probably tried to give a station an HDV tape. Douglas is right though, if delivered on HDCam you shouldn't have any problems.

As mentioned above, the same could be said of DV. None of the stations in my market will take DV masters, but as long as I deliver everything on BetaSP I don't have any problems.

Robert Bobson · April 27th, 2005, 10:28 AM

I love this website! :)

Jeff Mack · May 3rd, 2005, 11:28 AM

I recently talked with HDNet about taking a project that I am working on shot with my Z-1. They told me "We have looked at that camera but it won't work" I was flabbergasted. Their reasoning is that the mpeg compression doesn't work well with their broadcast. I am finishing the 5.1 surround mix on my project this week and they told me to bring it by when I'm done. They are clear that they only want to see projects on DVC Pro. So you all know in advance, I am going to output to a DVC Pro deck and let them look at it. I won't mention the Z-1 again. I'll let you all know the results next week!

Jeff

Nick Hiltgen · May 6th, 2005, 08:38 AM

My company has also had the same problem with HDnet as they have very strict policies regarding what they will take and what they won't. I had also heard that they wouldn't even accept the dvcprohd format but that was years ago and I'm sure that's changed by now.

Patrick Swinnea · May 17th, 2005, 03:40 PM

Jeff, how'd it go with HDNet?

Jeff Mack · May 18th, 2005, 08:51 AM

Man Patrick, I'm having a helluva time getting them to set an appointment. I'm hoping for this Friday! I'll let you know.

April 27th, 2005, 04:59 AM	#1
Robert Bobson Major Player Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bay City, Michigan Posts: 585	HDV not good enough? I recently read that some television channels that specialize in HD programming won't accept HDV programs because it's not up to par with "real" HD. Has anyone else heard of this practice? bob

April 27th, 2005, 06:09 AM	#2
Kevin Dooley Major Player Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Fort Worth, TX Posts: 414	Didn't the same thing happen with DV? And people just ended up dubbing their final projects to beta/digibeta... Sure HDV has it's problems, but I say if you give them the project on what they would call an "acceptable" format/tape, and they broadcast it... well, I guess it was good enough then... __________________ Kevin Dooley Media Director, Pantego Bible Church

April 27th, 2005, 06:28 AM	#3
Douglas Spotted Eagle VASST Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Stockton, UT Posts: 5,648	I keep hearing this as a rumor, but have yet to see an article by anyone, or any specific "this happened to me" situation. I DO know that the Discovery Channel and a couple of other high profile HD broadcasters HAVE taken HDV as a source. Frankly, as long as it's treated right and delivered on HDCam, I'd find it hard for anyone to tell the difference. __________________ Douglas Spotted Eagle/Spot Author, producer, composer Certified Sony Vegas Trainer http://www.vasst.com

April 27th, 2005, 06:50 AM	#4
Luis Caffesse Major Player Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 704	"I keep hearing this as a rumor, but have yet to see an article by anyone, or any specific "this happened to me" situation. I DO know that the Discovery Channel and a couple of other high profile HD broadcasters HAVE taken HDV as a source. Frankly, as long as it's treated right and delivered on HDCam, I'd find it hard for anyone to tell the difference." I have a feeling that this idea began with someone who probably tried to give a station an HDV tape. Douglas is right though, if delivered on HDCam you shouldn't have any problems. As mentioned above, the same could be said of DV. None of the stations in my market will take DV masters, but as long as I deliver everything on BetaSP I don't have any problems. __________________ Luis Caffesse Pitch Productions Austin, Texas

May 3rd, 2005, 11:28 AM	#6
Jeff Mack Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: McKinney, TX Posts: 195	Not Good Enough I recently talked with HDNet about taking a project that I am working on shot with my Z-1. They told me "We have looked at that camera but it won't work" I was flabbergasted. Their reasoning is that the mpeg compression doesn't work well with their broadcast. I am finishing the 5.1 surround mix on my project this week and they told me to bring it by when I'm done. They are clear that they only want to see projects on DVC Pro. So you all know in advance, I am going to output to a DVC Pro deck and let them look at it. I won't mention the Z-1 again. I'll let you all know the results next week! Jeff

April 27th, 2005, 10:28 AM	#5
Robert Bobson Major Player Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bay City, Michigan Posts: 585	I love this website! :)

May 6th, 2005, 08:38 AM	#7
Nick Hiltgen Trustee Join Date: May 2003 Location: Atlanta GA Posts: 1,427	My company has also had the same problem with HDnet as they have very strict policies regarding what they will take and what they won't. I had also heard that they wouldn't even accept the dvcprohd format but that was years ago and I'm sure that's changed by now.

May 17th, 2005, 03:40 PM	#8
Patrick Swinnea Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Denver, CO, USA Posts: 93	Jeff, how'd it go with HDNet?

May 18th, 2005, 08:51 AM	#9
Jeff Mack Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: McKinney, TX Posts: 195	Man Patrick, I'm having a helluva time getting them to set an appointment. I'm hoping for this Friday! I'll let you know.